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Old 01-20-2014, 02:10 PM
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Washington placed Steve Oleksy on waivers today. Could be a good pick up if we want a right handed physical defenseman that is good defensively and can skate well. Probably a better version of Cote and Aulie.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:51 PM
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Washington placed Steve Oleksy on waivers today. Could be a good pick up if we want a right handed physical defenseman that is good defensively and can skate well. Probably a better version of Cote and Aulie.
One thing to keep in mind, and this is just a general "don't forget" comment, is that organization currently has 48 players under contract. The maximum allowed by the CBA is 50.

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So... if Yzerman were to claim Oleksy...

(a) he'd then be at 49 contracts, one shy of the limit and could possibly limit deadline acquisition opportunities as sellers typically want picks or prospects, and not roster players, and

(b) since the current roster sits at 24 players, he'd either have to put Hedman on IR or send a player to Syracuse since Oleksy as a waiver claim would have to remain on the TBL roster. I don't think Cote is going anywhere (why else would they have given him an NHL contract if they didn't want him on the TBL roster; he already had an AHL contract if the org intended for him to play in Syracuse -- fact is, that contract wasn't given to him hapharzardly; that was an obvious decision for the balance of the season). For Aulie, there has to be a reason the TBL wants him on the TBL roster as he (a) wasn't given a conditioning assignment, and (b) he was preferentially kept over Sustr.

I think the upgrades over Aulie and Cote are going to have to be substantially better than just marginally better in order to see either of those guys reassigned.
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:07 PM
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I was kind of figuring getting him would be an upgrade over Aulie and would allow Yzerman to pull the trigger on a trade with Aulie in it..assuming that he might have an offer on the table for him which is just speculative on my part. I'm going to assume Oleksy doesn't get to us in the waiver process as it is. Young, physical defensemen usually are a decent grab on waivers by a bottom dwelling team.
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:07 PM
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I don't see how he's an upgrade over Aulie.
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:15 PM
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I don't see how he's an upgrade over Aulie.
Better skater, right handed shot, just as physical, and actually contributes on offense.
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Old 01-20-2014, 08:24 PM
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I was kind of figuring getting him would be an upgrade over Aulie and would allow Yzerman to pull the trigger on a trade with Aulie in it..assuming that he might have an offer on the table for him which is just speculative on my part.
Yeah, there's nothing at all that indicates there's a deal for Aulie on the table. There's not going to be much interest and much value in a trade for him at this point. And, Yzerman isn't going to trade Aulie (if at all) until he is pulling the trigger on *the* tradeline acquistion. Hedman's recent injury is just another example of the importance of having an abundance of blueline depth.

So.. I'm not expecting any player to be moved until closer to or on the deadline, and that's an IMO stretch of an assumption that Yzerman is going acquire anything more than "Stamkos coming off IR".

IMO, a deadline acquisition is not going to significantly improve this team's chances of winning a Cup. This team is as far along as the '04 Cup winners who needed a couple of vets at the deadline to push them over. Even Torts was STUNNED they won the Cup. We've all seen this year's team play, and we know the issues this team has is mostly because they are so young and need time to mature. So, I don't expect Yzerman to spend for significant deadline acquisition when you still have 8 rookies you are carrying into their first NHL playoffs. The thrifty move IMO is basically stand pat and go as far as you can, have the rookies gain some important experience, have another year of Cooper's system in place, and look ahead to 2015 and 16 as your legit shots at the Cup. Hold onto to your prize assets and depth. If someone wants to blow your socks off for Aulie, OK you listen, but no one is going to blow your socks off for Aulie. So, you be patient... teach 'em and grow 'em.
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According to Capgeek we have $3.7million in available capspace(after LTIR) for deadline moves. I can see Yzerman possibly taking a veteran forward or top-4 D rental if he thinks he can add a little something to the team without giving up much.

I'm thinking a deal similar to what landed us Brewer, if any deal is made. A mid-tier prospect and a mid round pick.
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Kevan Miller signed a two year extension with Boston and their are some thoughts that this makes Adam McQuaid available to be traded. I'd personally love him as a bottom pairing D-Man but I just figured I'd bring it up to see what some of you think.
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:11 PM
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Kevan Miller signed a two year extension with Boston and their are some thoughts that this makes Adam McQuaid available to be traded. I'd personally love him as a bottom pairing D-Man but I just figured I'd bring it up to see what some of you think.
wouldn't be terrible but its highly unlikely that a trade happens with Boston directly, currently battling for top spot in same division, and playoff rival from a few years back...among other things
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:41 AM
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Kevan Miller signed a two year extension with Boston and their are some thoughts that this makes Adam McQuaid available to be traded. I'd personally love him as a bottom pairing D-Man but I just figured I'd bring it up to see what some of you think.
Personally I'd like this for several reasons. He brings swagger and edge that he can back up (no this is not Fready typing). I think he's also a righty shot. He'd be some insurance for Salo's inevitable injury. His fights are really really entertaining (little jabbing and lots of haymakers) he'll keep the opposing players honest and accountable. Since we play 7 dmen he'd allow us to scratch Beener more easily. Julien actually plays him on the PK (when not scratched) if he can PK for Boston he can PK for me. Lastly (off the top of my head) if we are looking to trade Aulie this would also be a fill and bridge for another year until Koekkoek is ready.

I just don't think he's necessarily SY's type of player and Julien would have a cow if he was traded to closest current divisional rival, so I think he'd be more expensive than we think, so I can't see it happening.

Late Edit. I really think we are going to need someone that can provide some cover for some young players (Kucherov, Drouin, Namestnikov) especially next year.

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