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Old 12-12-2013, 08:21 PM
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The problem with USF adding hockey is what male sport will they get rid of in order to maintain the equity balance between male and female sports teams. Of course they could add another female sport but that increases their outlay of money.
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:57 AM
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Yeah, because it's just axiomatic that male and female participation in sports have to be exactly equal in amount, even if they're not. #PCisBS
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:28 AM
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The problem with USF adding hockey is what male sport will they get rid of in order to maintain the equity balance between male and female sports teams. Of course they could add another female sport but that increases their outlay of money.
Dang if we could just get rid of females and have them show up in the appropiate places like the kitchen, bedroom.....whatever your fancy. Who the hell do they think they are wanting equal access to sports......
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:56 AM
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Dang if we could just get rid of females and have them show up in the appropiate places like the kitchen, bedroom.....whatever your fancy. Who the hell do they think they are wanting equal access to sports......
Now does that make you feel more powerful?
If that was a response to aapbolt, you should reread the post. No opinion on Title 9 was given, just examination of the ins and outs of adding mens ice hockey while staying compliant with the law.

USF does have a men's club team, BTW. The Ice Bulls. I've not gotten a chance to watch them play, but I've been meaning to do so.
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:11 PM
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Thanks dannybolt, my comment as you correctly interpreted was merely the factual situation. Obviously it would be better to add male/ female hockey in order to limit the outlay of cash in order to maintain equity. I have a son and a daughter who both participate in different sports, I would hope that both can co time to do so in college,my son currently swims in college my daughter is still in high school, but that is up to them to make that decision. There has been an upswing in club teams at many colleges because they are not considered collegiate sports per say and are not funded directly by the college and thus do not qualify for consideration under title IX. If memory serves me right on the distinction between club and college sport teams.
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Old 12-16-2013, 07:04 AM
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If that was a response to aapbolt, you should reread the post. No opinion on Title 9 was given, just examination of the ins and outs of adding mens ice hockey while staying compliant with the law.

USF does have a men's club team, BTW. The Ice Bulls. I've not gotten a chance to watch them play, but I've been meaning to do so.
USF isn't the only club hockey team. The Gators, Noles, Hurricanes, FAU, FGCU, and UT they all have them and I am probably missing a few others in the state. It is not D-1 but it can be entertaining at times.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:09 AM
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Dang if we could just get rid of females and have them show up in the appropiate places like the kitchen, bedroom.....whatever your fancy. Who the hell do they think they are wanting equal access to sports......
Now does that make you feel more powerful?
I'm gonna go with "Probably not what he meant," but I'm just guessing.

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Old 12-16-2013, 09:40 AM
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I think in terms of title IX that the numbers in all sports must be equitable, but within a certain percentage. Like a 10-15% differential is ok. We have to deal with that in high school sports, which is why the number of girls who come out for my swim team is very important because those numbers help offset football. Although the numbers for my boys team continues to increase which does not help that offset, so we are really trying to recruit more girls here at school. does anyone know what the differential is for collegiate sports?
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:53 PM
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The problem with USF adding hockey is what male sport will they get rid of in order to maintain the equity balance between male and female sports teams.
Why wouldn't they just add a women's ice hockey team, too?

To me, at first, you build a program that attracts fringe USHL, NAHL, and prep players who maybe can't get into the big programs but want to play Div. 1 for a couple of years at USF and then try to attract someone to accept a transfer to their school. And, you try to get the kids of ex-Lightning and Panthers players who maybe also can't quite get into the big time programs.

In the long run, you hope having the option of a Div. 1 program brings up the level of your grassroots youth hockey to the point they start supplying players to the school, too.

UAH isn't the only off-the-beaten path school with a hockey program, btw. We do have a d-man from Nebraska-Omaha playing on the Lightning right now, after all.
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If they get a team together soon I already have their first recruit in mind, Niko Selivanov. Espo's grandson.

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