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Old 07-14-2012, 12:44 PM
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I gotta think they threw in the harsh contract measures so the players will feel like they got something when they drop them for a 50-50 split.
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:56 PM
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There's no way the NHL expects those points to be accepted immediately. Start high, negotiate your way down - Negotiation 101.

They're talking in July. No need to get worried yet.
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Negotiation 101 should also tell you that if your initial offer is so far overboard and unrealistic, you poison the well right from the start and have little or no chance of the other side taking you seriously.
I'd like to see what the PA's counter will be before I conclude that they think the well got fouled. Since Fehr has stated that they would be very "public" throughout the process.
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:09 PM
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Any word on limiting contract lengths? Thought that would be a major point
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:14 PM
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Yes... 5 years
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:12 PM
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wow. I know you have to negotiate but this offer is just horrible.
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:44 PM
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Of course you never start a negotiation with your actual final offer, or you're not negotiating. But you usually try to make the first offer at least appear as though you INTENDED it to be a "good-faith offer". They had to start somewhere, but taking the players from 57% of hockey revenue down to 42% is kind of lame.

I'm not going to bother getting worried about it (the labor strife) this time. Last time wore me out. It's not like we have a Cup to defend, an elite #1 starter to lose, or got bumped to 30th in the draft. If there's hockey in October, great. If they fuck it up with their intransigence and stupid egotism--AGAIN-- then they deserve to be called smegma and beyond that there's nothing we can do about it really
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:22 PM
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Yes... 5 years
Read about this as I was returning from FSU. And the contact terms must be the same for each year. No more front loading.

This does not loook good.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:54 AM
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This just in the players have made a counter proposal at the same level of nonsense.

  1. Players to get 69% of revenues
  2. 3 years from draft to UFA status
  3. No limit to contract length.
  4. First year Bonus can't exceed 50% of lifetime contract
  5. Salary arbitration will occur if any of the players current year stats improve by 1% there will be an automatic renegotiation of the contract terms on behalf of the player.
  6. 1 year entry level contract mandatory on a scale by round 5m, 4m, 3m, 2m, 1m, 800k, 600k for rounds m=millions k=thousand
  7. Owners will put up 10% of league revenue to fund the injury and retirement funds for the hockey players. The retirement funds and injury funds will be managed by the NHLPA.

Seems quite reasonable what do you guys think....
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:11 AM
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What a waste of time by both parties.

Both sides have got to be in the same room smoking the same stuff. Can we demand a drug test on all those involved.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:16 AM
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that was a tongue and cheek of my expectations.
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