Ft. Hood Shooting

[Hoek]

Officials: 11 killed, plus gunman, in Fort Hood shootings

(CNN) -- Eleven people plus a gunman were dead and 31 wounded after the gunman opened fire Thursday on a soldier-processing center at Fort Hood, Texas, officials said.

The gunman was a soldier, and two other soldiers have been detained as suspects, Army Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said.

The slain gunman was identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, a law enforcement source told CNN. Licensed in Virginia, Hasan was a psychiatrist who previously worked at Walter Reed Army Medical Center but more recently was practicing at Darnall Army Medical Center at Fort Hood, according to professional records.

Ten of the other dead also were soldiers, while the remaining one was a civilian police officer who was working as a contractor on the base, Cone said.

This is totally senseless. If it can happen there it can happen anywhere. And you'd think a psychiatrist dealing with PTSD would be the least susceptible to doing this sort of thing.

[Sotnos]

Originally Posted by Hoek

And you'd think a psychiatrist dealing with PTSD would be the least susceptible to doing this sort of thing.

That's got to be the most shocking part.

How terrible for all the dead/wounded and their families. Senseless is a good word for it.

[the_narrow_way]

Originally Posted by Hoek

This is totally senseless. If it can happen there it can happen anywhere. And you'd think a psychiatrist dealing with PTSD would be the least susceptible to doing this sort of thing.

...or the worst. Maybe he couldn't bear the idea of having to see it first-hand? I'm also wondering about the 2 supposed accomplices in custody? What a shame.

I wonder if Obama is going to use this as a reason to not increase troop levels in Afghanistan? (Please realize that this is not an attempt to bring political arguments into this discussion.)

[Hoek]

I don't see what it has to do with that. I also don't get the impression that Obama doesn't want to send more troops, and he certainly doesn't look for cheap excuses for his decisions.

[Hoek]

A former Fort Hood colleague of the shooter said Hasan would frequently make "outlandish" comments.

"He said maybe Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor," retired Col. Terry Lee told Fox News. "At first we thought he meant help the armed forces, but apparently that wasn't the case. Other times he would make comments we shouldn't be in the war in the first place."

So let me get this straight.. the guy says things supporting the enemy, and against the mission.. nothing happens..

But if he said something about having a boyfriend..

[Sotnos]

Originally Posted by Hoek

So let me get this straight.. the guy says things supporting the enemy, and against the mission.. nothing happens..

If he was saying stuff like that and no one said anything...wow. Not sure I really buy it completely though, reading the other articles on Fox there's a lot of weird hearsay in them trying to paint the Muslim=bad picture.

It sounds now like he was acting alone btw, CNN says the other guys brought in for questioning have been released.

[TexasBolt]

Leave it to Fox News to go rooting around for the "Muslim who hates America" angle. Even a right-wing toady like John Cornyn is saying that no one should be jumping to conclusions and yet there they go.

[Sotnos]

Originally Posted by TexasBolt

Leave it to Fox News to go rooting around for the "Muslim who hates America" angle.

Yeah I really don't like their approach in their articles, none of the other news I've looked at is going there.

Anyone who does what he did, regardless of their background, is at least one brick short of a full load.

[Hoek]

Some more details on the guy..

Fort Hood suspect said his goodbyes before rampage

Relatives said he felt harassed because of his Muslim faith but did not embrace extremism. Others were not so sure. A recent classmate said Hasan once gave a jarring presentation to students in which he argued the war on terrorism was a war against Islam, and "made himself a lightning rod for things" when he felt his religious beliefs were challenged.

According to a Killeen police report in August, an Army employee was charged with scratching Hasan's car, causing $1,000 in damage. Apartment manager John Thompson said the man charged was a soldier back from Iraq, who objected to Hasan's faith and ripped a bumper sticker off the major's car that said: "Allah is Love."

Looks like he took a lot of crap. What I don't get is why he inserted himself into a situation which would only make things worse..

And as usual we've got another guy doing the same thing in Orlando, possibly triggered by this event.

[Hoek]

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