News of the Day II

[pete]

And, btw, based on the way DubDub has intensified his defense of even the stupidest of the man’s transgressions (like Sharpie on a weather map) and amplified Trumpian conspiracy theories even more over the last year...

Is there anyone here who really believes that even if he didn’t vote for Trump in 2016 (I don’t believe him) that he won’t enthusiastically vote for him in 2020?

[Maverick9911]

What's neat about those types is that many of them fail to recognize that there are always receipts. You see tons on Twitter who like to claim they are independent, Republican but not voting for Trump, "fair and balanced" blah blah. Then you look at their likes section and see the truth - whereas they may claim to be independent and non-committal to Trump, boy do they love them some brown kid rustling and Tammy Mayonnaise!

[WaiverWire]

Originally Posted by Donnie D

It wasn’t the news story that was fake (like the last time). This time WW misstated what Fox News reported.

Fox News reported that the approval to refuel occurred during the Obama administration. WW referenced this story and said that the Obama administration authorized Air Force personnel to stay at the Trump resort. (In bold letters). That was totally untrue.

Donnie, as a retired government employee you should know that if Obama allowed this field for refueling, and if the refueling cased an overnight stay, the crews have a right to stay where they want. And if Trump's resort honored the $133 government rate …...so what. Please tell me hoe Trump made money from the less than 6% of the crews that stayed there?

Your blatant haltered is really a joke.

[WaiverWire]

Originally Posted by pete

You mean like Barr's DOJ when they dragged a man's name through the mud before a grand jury had made their decision about whether to indict or not, and then put the full force of the right wing media behind politicizing the dragging?

HAHAHAHAHA...…...the IG released the report and recommended charges. McCabe's attorneys went to the DOJ and requested the charges not be filed. They said....nope. Would not be surprised they asked him to flip and his attorneys said......nope

Originally Posted by pete

Nope, because the whole premise is dumb as shit. You want us to believe a fundamentally conservative institution, the FBI, plotted an after-the-fact coup... even though their asymmetrical treatment of investigations during the 2016 election clearly favored Trump. You lunatics want to believe Peter Strozk, Andrew McCabe, James Comey, a partridge and a pear tree were all out to get Trump, even though all they had to do to sink Trump's candidacy in 2016 before the election was tell the world the truth that Trump was subject of a counterintelligence investigation into Russian coercion. But they didn't, even though they DID publicize the existence of Anthony Weiner's laptop in a clear example of a double standard.

This from the person that kept pushing the Steele Dossier. Yup the same dossier that has been shown to be false. The one Comey said that they could not verify it, but yet he was the one that presented it to the courts the first time as being true and verified.

Originally Posted by pete

I would expect that when this is over Andy McCabe is going to rip the government a new asshole in a wrongful termination/harassment suit that looks completely warranted if they recommended to indict with evidence so flimsy a grand jury refused to indict and then turn around and continue to press the case against all DOJ guidelines and policies. Talk about a real witch hunt.

When did the grand jury refuse to indict?

What, is this what you call refused to indict?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/13/mcca...harge-him.html

Since the grand jury was held after the DOJ announced they would seek an indictment and nothing happened you are assuming that they refused to indict. Several things could have happened. One, they held off asking as the new IG report was giving to the DOJ or two, there was an indictment and it was sealed. Or three, they are just making him squirm a little.

And your claim of flimsy evidence is truly funny as it would be the same evidence that they charged Flynn with.....lying to an FBI agent

[BurnTHalO]

Originally Posted by WaiverWire

Donnie, as a retired government employee you should know that if Obama allowed this field for refueling, and if the refueling cased an overnight stay, the crews have a right to stay where they want. And if Trump's resort honored the $133 government rate …...so what. Please tell me hoe Trump made money from the less than 6% of the crews that stayed there?

Your blatant haltered is really a joke.

Would they not make money if 1 person stayed there?

By the way, still wondering about Trump committing a crime and if you are going to say something against that.

[Donnie D]

Originally Posted by WaiverWire

Donnie, as a retired government employee you should know that if Obama allowed this field for refueling, and if the refueling cased an overnight stay, the crews have a right to stay where they want. And if Trump's resort honored the $133 government rate …...so what. Please tell me hoe Trump made money from the less than 6% of the crews that stayed there?

Your blatant haltered is really a joke.

1. Wrong - this has been explained to you previously. Obama didn’t approve the refueling. The military approved it during the time when Obama was in office

2. Wrong - The crews don’t get to stay where they want. According to the Air Force report you cited, “We send aircrews”.

3. Wrong - this has been explained to you previously. He gets to rent empty rooms and he gets all of the meal money

Congratulations - that’s a Hat trick of wrong answers.

Your blatant acceptance of everything Trump is really a joke.

Going to apologize for lying about the Fox News story?

[dannybolt]

I for one am enjoying this point by point woodshedding DD is laying out. Not as mockingly condescending as Pete's normal, but just as effective.

It's remarkeable that 2Dubs continues to take his losing, unsubstantiated argumentation and misreading and wrong conclusions, charging face first into the rhetorical woodchipper. Over and over again.

Noted toady TDI has dropped off. I guess once they realized nobody around here (other than 2Dubs) takes anything from FoxNews seriously (thereby robbing them of their only source of "information"), TDI decided to seek greener pastures. Adios muchacho.

Thanks for providing the update on the emoluments clause lawsuit, Maverick. I was disheartened to see the lower court throw it out. I'm glad it's been reinstated upon appeal.

[Puckhead]

Paul Laxalt R (defeated by Sisolak for governor) has his annual “Basque Fish Fry” in Carson City every year. Chief Fox/R speaker was Matt Schlapp; Basically, all Dems are socialists and they are all going to take away your guns (Thanks Beto..). They really believe that they can turn the tide against huge gains on the ground by D’s in the last cycle. (Even Reno went D in 2018). Of course, the rest of the state is sagebrush (which I love) and a few fence posts. And, last time I checked, fenceposts don’t vote.

So, by all means, spend big money in Nevada. We will kick your sorry ass just like we did in ‘18, if not worse.

[pete]

HAHAHAHAHA...…...the IG released the report and recommended charges. McCabe's attorneys went to the DOJ and requested the charges not be filed. They said....nope. Would not be surprised they asked him to flip and his attorneys said......nope

DOJ issued a politically motivated recommendation to indict McCabe and then, in a coordinated fashion, pushed out that recommendation to all right wing media outlets to get rubes like you lathered up. However, when the flimsy facts of said recommendation to indict were put to a grand jury, the grand jury (which indicts 98% of the time, so this is significant) appears to have possibly said... nope.

If it’s true that the grand jury refused to indict McCabe, that would be remarkable. That never happened to me in over nine years as a federal prosecutor.

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...612976644?s=20

It IS incredible if that has happened, because it shows that the federal government has nothing resembling a legitimate case and this is a laughable authoritarian attempt to abuse the power of the DOJ to persecute Trump's so-called political enemies. IOW, Bill Barr once again proving what an unmitigated piece of trash he is.

This from the person that kept pushing the Steele Dossier. Yup the same dossier that has been shown to be false.

Oops, DubDub goes and tries to get away with another big lie. There's a difference between elements of the Dossier being unproven and the whole Dossier being proven false. The former is true. The latter is completely untrue, because large elements of the Dossier have been proven to be absolutely true. Keep pushing right wing conspiracy tropes, though.

Since the grand jury was held after the DOJ announced they would seek an indictment and nothing happened you are assuming that they refused to indict. Several things could have happened. One, they held off asking as the new IG report was giving to the DOJ or two, there was an indictment and it was sealed. Or three, they are just making him squirm a little.

Or four, the rumors that McCabe's attorneys have heard from press and others are true, and the federal government's case is indeed so unbelievable thin they couldn't even get a grand jury indictment.

And your claim of flimsy evidence is truly funny as it would be the same evidence that they charged Flynn with.....lying to an FBI agent

Except the case on Flynn actually got indicted, and the subject of his lying was so severe it bordered on treasonous, as noted vociferously by the judge in his sentencing hearings to date. Direct quote from Judge Sullivan:

“All along, you were an unregistered agent of a foreign country while serving as the National Security Adviser to the President of the United States. That undermines everything this flag over here stands for. Arguably you sold your country out."

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...f1e5630288061a

That's the type of guy you're defending, DubDub the Treason Weasel.

[Maverick9911]

Or four, the rumors that McCabe's attorneys have heard from press and others are true, and the federal government's case is indeed so unbelievable thin they couldn't even get a grand jury indictment.

As the old saying goes, if the prosecution wanted, they could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

Guess they wanted a vegan option, instead.

Donald J. Trump
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