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Old 01-14-2020, 11:00 PM
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As a former mafia prosecutor, this sure sounds like a mob hit was being planned on a public servant in a foreign country by associates of the POTUS. A POTUS who said she was “going to go through some things.” This takes Trump’s lawlessness & misogny to new level.
https://twitter.com/Mimirocah1/statu...694621696?s=20

This is why, as delightful a diversion as it's been, Warren and Sanders' spat over his hot take is irrelevant and will shortly complete blowing over. Because a day later you find out that evidently Trump green lit Giuliani and his two Ukranian goons in a plot to stalk and physically accost a US ambassador.
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:57 AM
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I think once the left consolidates behind whoever the nominee is you're going to be shocked how strong their whole operation gets in a hurry. GOTV. Fundraising. You name it. It's going to be all hands on deck and I'll let you in on a terrible secret: a good 80-90% of the base doesn't really care who the nominee is and just wants to kick the shit out of Trump at the ballot box. Just tell them who the nominee is and they'll crawl over broken glass to get it done.

But with that said, the proven secret sauce is extra juice in African American turnout and whether you like it or you don't Biden's the one they're supporting.

You have to admit it's a little concerning that after more than five years Sanders still hasn't figured out how to sway those voters. It's not like Warren, who's got the excuse she's only been campaigning for a year. Sanders has been running for POTUS for over five years now and he knows from the last primary where he lost because of tepid African American support that it's where he needed to step up his game. And yet...

Bloomberg and Mayor Pete have problems with the AA electorate as well. Gays and Jews will have difficulty with that demographic.
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:51 AM
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Don't they have anything better to be doing? Same old pandering GOP.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...ssion-n1116256
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:21 PM
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Might be fun to see if your candidate is really the one you should be supporting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...grees-with-me/

Mine, probably not surprising, are

Bloomberg, Biden, Klobuchar

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Sanders, Warren, Gabbard.
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:35 PM
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Might be fun to see if your candidate is really the one you should be supporting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...grees-with-me/

Mine, probably not surprising, are

Bloomberg, Biden, Klobuchar

Lowest

Sanders, Warren, Gabbard.
Interesting:
Highest: Bloomberg, Biden, Yang
Lowest: Warren, Gabbard, Sanders

I'm most surprised that Warren scored in the bottom 3, but there were no questions on regulation of the financial services industry, which is where we agree most heavily.
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:44 PM
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:54 PM
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Bloomberg and Mayor Pete have problems with the AA electorate as well. Gays and Jews will have difficulty with that demographic.
Jonathon Capehart offered an interesting take on the AA affinity for Biden, the gist of which is that the older segment is very pragmatic. They don't have a specific problem with an old white guy being the nominee, because (again) their prime motivation is to hoover Trump. He said that part of this thinking comes from his mother and grandmother back in SC, as well as some national polling.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...voters-reason/
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Old 01-15-2020, 03:14 PM
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Not at all surprising.

Given that Sanders is the farthest to the left, they would still prefer a center / left candidate over someone from the far right.

Itís the moderates (Mayor Pete, Biden) who might see a conservative more appealing than a far left candidate.
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Old 01-15-2020, 03:49 PM
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Interesting:
Highest: Bloomberg, Biden, Yang
Lowest: Warren, Gabbard, Sanders

I'm most surprised that Warren scored in the bottom 3, but there were no questions on regulation of the financial services industry, which is where we agree most heavily.
I got the same thing, lol.

Bloomberg is too much of a nanny statist, though. Meh.
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Old 01-15-2020, 03:50 PM
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Might be fun to see if your candidate is really the one you should be supporting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...grees-with-me/

Mine, probably not surprising, are

Bloomberg, Biden, Klobuchar

Lowest

Sanders, Warren, Gabbard.
Biden, Buttigieg, and Gabbard were the clear losers for me.

Yang was #1, the rest grouped within 2 spots of him.
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