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Old 01-13-2020, 09:15 PM
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Bernie supporters every day for the past five plus years:



Elizabeth Warren:



Bernie's Supporters:



After which they plug their ears and start squealing three octaves above a dog whistle:



It's hilarious.

You fucking thin-skinned babies.

I laughed like the Bay City Plywood guys.
That needs to go national. Laughed like hell..esp the Bay City boys reference!!
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:36 PM
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That needs to go national. Laughed like hell..esp the Bay City boys reference!!
Here's the thing...

The Democratic Party has gone out of their way to appease Bernie and his cultish apostles because they have a legitimate concern that the guy who won't even self-identify as a Democrat will run a third party candidacy and screw us all over. The Republican establishment appeased Trump for much of the 2016 cycle until it was too late for much the same reason.

So, Bernie's been treated with kid gloves for five plus years now while some of his most rabid supporters have acted like a bunch of petulant brats.

Elizabeth Warren just did one of the very first things in five plus years that might be construed as a brush back pitch and they're losing their GD minds.

If you can't handle Elizabeth Warren saying Bernie had a hot take that a woman couldn't win the 2020 election, WTF are you going to do in the GE if Donald Trump starts calling him a weak kneed communist and everything else under the sun (which he will)? Honest question.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:37 PM
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I can't indulge in this self mutilation of the Democratic party.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:44 PM
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I can't indulge in this self mutilation of the Democratic party.
Dude, contrary to the overreaction by the Sanders people (which is so GD amusing, I just Bay City Plywooded again), let me assure you this is nothing. It will blow over. Quickly.

For example:

Remember in 2004 when Wesley Clark's campaign planted a story that John Kerry had a mistress?

No?

Exactly.

There's only one time I can think of in recent memory where something like this actually mattered in a campaign, and that's when George W Bush's people started push polling in South Carolina that John McCain's Bangladeshi child that he had adopted from Mother Theresa's orphanage was actually his illegitimate black child.

And even that episode has faded from a lot of people's memories.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:48 PM
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Here's the thing...

The Democratic Party has gone out of their way to appease Bernie and his cultish apostles because they have a legitimate concern that the guy who won't even self-identify as a Democrat will run a third party candidacy and screw us all over. The Republican establishment appeased Trump for much of the 2016 cycle until it was too late for much the same reason.

So, Bernie's been treated with kid gloves for five plus years now while some of his most rabid supporters have acted like a bunch of petulant brats.

Elizabeth Warren just did one of the very first things in five plus years that might be construed as a brush back pitch and they're losing their GD minds.

If you can't handle Elizabeth Warren saying Bernie had a hot take that a woman couldn't win the 2020 election, WTF are you going to do in the GE if Donald Trump starts calling him a weak kneed communist and everything else under the sun (which he will)? Honest question.
Indeed. I mentioned a while back that my fear is that (petulant) Burners will support an Independent or just sit it out when it comes down to it in the GE. You gotta know the grabber is licking his chops going after Bernie in PA, OH, MI, Wi. I don't think I could stomach the bile that he would spew at Sanders during a campaign.
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Old 01-13-2020, 10:05 PM
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Dude, contrary to the overreaction by the Sanders people (which is so GD amusing, I just Bay City Plywooded again), let me assure you this is nothing. It will blow over. Quickly.

For example:

Remember in 2004 when Wesley Clark's campaign planted a story that John Kerry had a mistress?

No?

Exactly.

There's only one time I can think of in recent memory where something like this actually mattered in a campaign, and that's when George W Bush's people started push polling in South Carolina that John McCain's Bangladeshi child that he had adopted from Mother Theresa's orphanage was actually his illegitimate black child.

And even that episode has faded from a lot of people's memories.
Glad you brought up Kerry. Why didn't he win against Bush? This kind of thing, but outside primary season.
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Old 01-13-2020, 10:40 PM
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Glad you brought up Kerry. Why didn't he win against Bush?
Dubya scared suburban white women enough to eek out the W by flogging the idea that terrorists were gonna come kill their babies if he wasn't re-elected.

Let me put this another way...

Assume Bernie Sanders somehow drags himself and his thin-skinned supporters into the GE: do you really think Donald Trump, Grabber of the Kitty, Hush Money Payer of Porn Stars, Pig of Pigs, is going to score points with female voters calling him a sexist for having a hot take about a woman not being able to win in 2020 (which by that point would be proven true, n'est pas?)?

I mean, Jesus, I would hope Trump would try to elevate that issue. Just another opportunity to replay the Access Hollywood tapes.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:06 PM
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Indeed. I mentioned a while back that my fear is that (petulant) Burners will support an Independent or just sit it out when it comes down to it in the GE.
Like 2016?
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:00 AM
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Dubya scared suburban white women enough to eek out the W by flogging the idea that terrorists were gonna come kill their babies if he wasn't re-elected.

Let me put this another way...

Assume Bernie Sanders somehow drags himself and his thin-skinned supporters into the GE: do you really think Donald Trump, Grabber of the Kitty, Hush Money Payer of Porn Stars, Pig of Pigs, is going to score points with female voters calling him a sexist for having a hot take about a woman not being able to win in 2020 (which by that point would be proven true, n'est pas?)?

I mean, Jesus, I would hope Trump would try to elevate that issue. Just another opportunity to replay the Access Hollywood tapes.
Unfortunately, yes I do believe he scores points. The moral standard is very different between democrats and republicans.
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Like 2016?
Ding ding ding.

I will say though, the majority of Sanders supporters I've personally come into contact with this and the last(2018) election cycle have been less "My way or the highway" and more "Please come my way but you're still better than the alternative so we'll just keep pitching you ideas until one sticks".
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