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Old 08-05-2019, 02:36 PM
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Care to explain why you think that way?

Also, a reminder,
'Only in the Panhandle': Trump chuckles when audience member suggests shooting migrants
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/1150160001/

Does this make me scum too?
Only the scummiest of the scum would post an article like that after these shootings. But if you like what the scum does so be it, it is your right.

This is not the time to point fingers at one cause as there as so many reasons that crap like this happens. But first we must all understand that there is a huge problem, but we must also realize that fixing just one aspect of this problem will not solve it. And in order to solve the problem we must all come together and stop this crap of trying to divide, as is always the case with the scum. We must look at all aspects of why, and do something about it.

The scum, and others here have used words such as racist, white supremacy and other words that have been tossed around like they are nothing and have made these words less damning for ones conduct. The scum has labeled any one that is GOP as a racist and a white supremist. The scum has done more harm in trying not to bring the country together with the words and label he uses.

And from the labels and words he uses it is very clear that he is nothing but a puppet that does what he is told.

So in the words and labels of the scum, if any of the law enforcement officers that took out the Dayton shooter were a member of the GOP he claims they are racists and must be a white supremist. Doesn't matter that these officers ran to the shooter with no regard for their own safety in order to protect others with out asking a single question about those they are trying to protect.

So yes pete is scum.
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:08 PM
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I think it's fascinating that people like Waiver are more angry at the people calling out racism and its enablers than they are at the actual racists.

Remember kids, in Waiver land, if you call a racist a racist, that somehow makes YOU a "bigot" (or "scum") and absolves the racist (and their enablers) of any of their sins. It's a neat and tidy package.
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:11 PM
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Exactly right.

Waiver's had ample opportunities to denounce Trump's racism, misogyny, and anti-Semitism. And at every single opportunity, he's chosen to rationalize it and defend the man.

If that makes me "scum" to point out you've sold your soul to the devil, Waiver, so be it.
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:53 PM
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Exactly right.

Waiver's had ample opportunities to denounce Trump's racism, misogyny, and anti-Semitism. And at every single opportunity, he's chosen to rationalize it and defend the man.

If that makes me "scum" to point out you've sold your soul to the devil, Waiver, so be it.
This is generally a pretty well reasoned, intelligent group. Beliefs tend to be backed up with reasoned arguments. With two glaring exceptions. That covers hard left people like Zeyk, center-left people (most of the rest of the posters), and the few of us like myself (and Hoek) that have views on both sides of the aisle. And ALL have called 2dubs on his bullshit. Repeatedly. This strikes me as a pretty good barometer for the country in a way. You have an overly vocal minority of people willing to excuse reprehensible behavior, and are incapable of being reasoned with. The rest of us are just shaking our heads.

(Sorry for dragging you down to my level Hoek. You deserve better.)
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Old 08-05-2019, 04:10 PM
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Criminals. Rapists. Invaders. Animals. Shitholes. Rats. Infestation.

*silence*

White supremacists.

"I say, sir, that language will NOT STAND HERE!! We need unity!"
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Old 08-05-2019, 04:12 PM
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Only the scummiest of the scum would post an article like that after these shootings. But if you like what the scum does so be it, it is your right.

This is not the time to point fingers at one cause as there as so many reasons that crap like this happens. But first we must all understand that there is a huge problem, but we must also realize that fixing just one aspect of this problem will not solve it. And in order to solve the problem we must all come together and stop this crap of trying to divide, as is always the case with the scum. We must look at all aspects of why, and do something about it.

The scum, and others here have used words such as racist, white supremacy and other words that have been tossed around like they are nothing and have made these words less damning for ones conduct. The scum has labeled any one that is GOP as a racist and a white supremist. The scum has done more harm in trying not to bring the country together with the words and label he uses.

And from the labels and words he uses it is very clear that he is nothing but a puppet that does what he is told.

So in the words and labels of the scum, if any of the law enforcement officers that took out the Dayton shooter were a member of the GOP he claims they are racists and must be a white supremist. Doesn't matter that these officers ran to the shooter with no regard for their own safety in order to protect others with out asking a single question about those they are trying to protect.

So yes pete is scum.
Fuckin' A, man. THIS IS THE TIME. Fuck the thoughts and prayers and letting the time pass so it is not so painful. Trump will manufacture some "fake news" to tweet to change the conversation if this is allowed to fade away.

This isn't about Law Enforcement's response. It is about SOMEONE addressing the problems of weapons of mass destruction/war in the hands of soooo many knuckleheads who can afford $600 at their neighborhood gun store a Bushmaster/AR-15 or Kalishnikov.

The El Paso shooting was a white supremacy problem. No doubt about it. Dayton appears to have been an asshole problem.
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Old 08-05-2019, 06:00 PM
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Fuckin' A, man. THIS IS THE TIME. Fuck the thoughts and prayers and letting the time pass so it is not so painful. Trump will manufacture some "fake news" to tweet to change the conversation if this is allowed to fade away.

This isn't about Law Enforcement's response. It is about SOMEONE addressing the problems of weapons of mass destruction/war in the hands of soooo many knuckleheads who can afford $600 at their neighborhood gun store a Bushmaster/AR-15 or Kalishnikov.

The El Paso shooting was a white supremacy problem. No doubt about it. Dayton appears to have been an asshole problem.
Yes Flycoon it is all about time for us to address this problem.

For starters HR 18 and HR 1112 should be taken up now. The Senate should go back this morning and pass these bills.

However this should not be the end of it. Just look at HR 1112. Does it really solve the problem, or part of the problem? It does not and here is why. The National Instant Criminal Background Check (NICS) is flawed. We still have states according to 2017 data that have never even contributed to this system, a system that was created in 2007 and mandates states participate. However not once has a state been fined. It is also reported that over 20% of domestic violence offenders are not listed in this system. We even found out after one mass shooting that our own military failed to send information to this system.

But HR 18 and HR 1112 doesn't even start to solve the problem. We need to get the military style rifles off the street. We need to get high load magazines off the streets. We need to stop manufacturing for the public the very lethal ammo that is currently available for purchase.

Mental health is not the soul problem, but we need to see what we can do better. When I was working you could place a 72 hour Baker Act hold on someone and the holding facilities would release almost all before your shift ended. That is a joke.

Today we have sides calling other sides names that are totally uncalled for, look no further than this forum. We have the lack of respect in the classrooms, just ask any public school teacher.

I could go on and on but will leave it to others to add to this.
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Old 08-05-2019, 06:04 PM
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Exactly right.

Waiver's had ample opportunities to denounce Trump's racism, misogyny, and anti-Semitism. And at every single opportunity, he's chosen to rationalize it and defend the man.

If that makes me "scum" to point out you've sold your soul to the devil, Waiver, so be it.
Oh here we go again. How many times have I said I am not posting to back Trump, but most of my posts are directed at you not showing both sides as it does not fit your agenda.

And if you want to believe that I "sold my soul" I can not stop you pete but it sure shows me that you have no clue as to what I am about.

And yes I really do believe now that you are scum....and I do not throw that term around so freely like you do with the things you have called me.
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Mental health is not the soul problem, but we need to see what we can do better. When I was working you could place a 72 hour Baker Act hold on someone and the holding facilities would release almost all before your shift ended. That is a joke.
My old drug court judge used to lament how we rank 50th, even below Puerto Rico, when it comes to funding for drug and mental health treatment. Baker Acting someone, or throwing them in jail, was the only available option to keep someone from self-harm.

Yet if you ask the legislature for additional funding and/or health care reform, welp, bad bad socialism!!!!
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I think it's fascinating that people like Waiver are more angry at the people calling out racism and its enablers than they are at the actual racists.

Remember kids, in Waiver land, if you call a racist a racist, that somehow makes YOU a "bigot" (or "scum") and absolves the racist (and their enablers) of any of their sins. It's a neat and tidy package.
pete you don't get it. Everyone on the right is a bigot or a racist or a white supremist to you. You have even said so in your posting over the years.

I have only called one person here "scum".

Why do you not stop this childs play of yours and really post things that could make a change for all. Instead all we see is that no matter what those on the right do or say you will always find fault and a way to slam their ideas in your little twisted and warped mind.
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