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Old 10-15-2013, 03:25 PM
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:12 PM
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Tim, what happens if a team loses a player to short term injuries? Does their salary still count against the Cap? Or do they get cap relief. I understand LTIR,but wonder what happens on short term injuries and the impact on the Cap? Could that result in a team having to trade someone. Or not?
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:41 PM
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Tim, what happens if a team loses a player to short term injuries? Does their salary still count against the Cap? Or do they get cap relief. I understand LTIR,but wonder what happens on short term injuries and the impact on the Cap? Could that result in a team having to trade someone. Or not?
If they're placed on IR then you can exceed the Ceiling by the same amount as their Cap hit. If it's an emergency situation(injured day of and need a body) you can do an emergency recall where the person recalled doesn't count against the cap but only for that one game. They would either need to be sent down following the game or the injured player would have to be put on IR.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:28 PM
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If they're placed on IR then you can exceed the Ceiling by the same amount as their Cap hit.
I think that's only if they are placed on LTIR and there's special NHL procedures for doing that vs. just going to IR.

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Tim, what happens if a team loses a player to short term injuries? Does their salary still count against the Cap? Or do they get cap relief. I understand LTIR,but wonder what happens on short term injuries and the impact on the Cap? Could that result in a team having to trade someone. Or not?
I'm pretty sure the cap hit for a player on IR still counts towards the cap and there is no overage allowed like there is for LTIR, but quite frankly Mike G. is now my master in questions concerning the newest CBA.

That's my assumption which is why I carry this lingering hope that we can still somehow acquire a guy like Niskanen or Franson is that the team would get into a cap issue due to some other injury on their team that would require them adding cap to their roster in the form of injury replacement.
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:36 PM
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This may help. Tim pretty much nailed it

http://capgeek.com/faq/how-does-long...-LTIR-work.php

Figured the Capgeek abridged version would be better than the lawyer-speak wordsmithing from the actual new CBA

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Old 10-15-2013, 09:49 PM
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Thanks Tim, Coldrice and Chase. Like Tim I am hoping that the pens or another team deep in D will get into cap trouble and look to deal for picks. The pens intrigue me because of Crosby's history along with others on their team who haveva history of being out for a few games. Should be an interesting season to watch for the normal injury bug that affects all teams.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:54 PM
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why are you not confident in SY? his drafting style?(skill over grit?)

Based on every GM in the past...we have the best farm system to date with an outstanding outlook for the next 2-7years. I am no expert but it is shaping up where we can simply pick people from our farm team vs heavily relying on FA's.... Simply asking why?
The only question about SFY's drafting is that his record on high number 1 picks is still uncertain. Connolly and Koekkoek have questions associated with their selection - especially Connolly who was picked at #6. Some will also question the Drouin pick over Jones. Time will tell on that one.

But you can't question that they have and excellent track record with the second picks in the draft, Gudas, Kucherov, Vasilevski, Erne. And the later picks like Palat and the college pickups like Sustr and Brown have been outstanding.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:53 PM
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There is a good chance that every one of the picks in the 2011 draft may play NHL games. That's ridiculously unheard of. The 2010 draft is shaping up pretty well and 2012 and 2013 are still early, but they are looking solid as well. Even if high 1st round picks turn into regular NHLers, I think that's a win.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:00 PM
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The only question about SFY's drafting is that his record on high number 1 picks is still uncertain. Connolly and Koekkoek have questions associated with their selection - especially Connolly who was picked at #6. Some will also question the Drouin pick over Jones. Time will tell on that one.

But you can't question that they have and excellent track record with the second picks in the draft, Gudas, Kucherov, Vasilevski, Erne. And the later picks like Palat and the college pickups like Sustr and Brown have been outstanding.
I think the expectation should be different. I saw Koekkoek this summer and he looked like a man amongst boys at the rookie camp @ the ice forum. He looked fast/thick/athletic skater when I saw him. Connolly is certainly an extremely talented player, and Drouin's skill is undeniable. If you have a high pick it generally means your roster has quite a few holes in it. But I think what this season will prove is that it was Boucher's system that wasnt working and not necessarily the players/goaltending. And therefore no need to hurry the kids along. Also a key has been players like Killorn (drafted in 2007 R3) who played in college, Sustr (undrafted free agent college), Tyler Johnson (undrafted), and other additions. So far Yzerman is hitting on all cylinders on findings these players which has attributed to our high picks staying in lower level leagues. It is not necessarily a question of his drafting record - it is a reflection of his ability to bring in valuable additions to the team from a variety of different sources.

Bringing these kids up slowly and teaching them to play a 200 ft game like Johnson/Palat display is extremely valuable. We are letting our high picks develop and not rushing them - I think it will prove to create a dinasty here.

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