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Old 08-08-2018, 09:25 AM
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So my takeaway from the special elections last night is that people are freakin' stupid and don't have any idea what's going on around them. We're doomed.
The real interesting one is Ohio. That seat has been R for 30 years, and it could still flip (waiting on provisionals). There were 67 districts that either swung for Hillary or more for Hillary than this district. That could potentially put 67 districts in play.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:49 AM
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Dem Turnout in Michigan Governor primary: 1,118,744. Almost as much as it was for the Presidential Primary in 2016(Bernie won this by ~17k votes). Missing the Presidential primary total by 53,273 votes.

GOP Turnout in Michigan Governor primary: 982,094. They missed their 2016 Presidential Turnout figures by 277,000 votes.

We're not going to change everything overnight, but the trend is important. Bernie and AOC campaigned for James Thompson in Kansas. He won his primary and turned a R+20 district to R+4. Remains to be seen if he can beat the republican in the general to flip the seat in the House, but that's a big deal in the Koch Brother's backyard. Also, interesting that the Social Democrats messaging and policy positions seem to work in Kansas.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:58 AM
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23% of Republicans polled think Donald Trump should unilaterally shut down the New York Times, Washington Post and CNN.

43% of Republicans think Trump should be able to shut down media outlets in general.

That 43% number. That's fucking terrifying. What the fuck is wrong with these people? I say this as someone who regularly points out how incredibly shitty mainstream media is. It manufactures consent for the oligarchy on a daily basis. But the Constitution is the law of the land ffs.

Clearly, this is a result of the President's attacks on the 1st Amendment and the freedom of the press. His comments alone make him guilty of violating his oath to defend the Constitution. He's shitting on it himself.
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Old 08-08-2018, 12:58 PM
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Old 08-08-2018, 01:47 PM
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:50 PM
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Dem Turnout in Michigan Governor primary: 1,118,744. Almost as much as it was for the Presidential Primary in 2016(Bernie won this by ~17k votes). Missing the Presidential primary total by 53,273 votes.

GOP Turnout in Michigan Governor primary: 982,094. They missed their 2016 Presidential Turnout figures by 277,000 votes.

We're not going to change everything overnight, but the trend is important. Bernie and AOC campaigned for James Thompson in Kansas. He won his primary and turned a R+20 district to R+4. Remains to be seen if he can beat the republican in the general to flip the seat in the House, but that's a big deal in the Koch Brother's backyard. Also, interesting that the Social Democrats messaging and policy positions seem to work in Kansas.
Well, those are encouraging numbers, and would seem to lend credence to the "intensity/enthusiasm" factor we hear about and feel amongst the Democratic electorate. I love DJT taking complete credit for a <1% win by Balderson. Oh, and Balderson mentioned DJT in his remarks, but NO mention of Kasich's endorsement. Kick meet balls. Smart people would say that Kasichs' endorsement was pivotal in reassuring urban R voters that Balderson is "OK".
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:28 PM
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https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-pol...dia-2018-08-07

23% of Republicans polled think Donald Trump should unilaterally shut down the New York Times, Washington Post and CNN.

43% of Republicans think Trump should be able to shut down media outlets in general.

That 43% number. That's fucking terrifying. What the fuck is wrong with these people? I say this as someone who regularly points out how incredibly shitty mainstream media is. It manufactures consent for the oligarchy on a daily basis. But the Constitution is the law of the land ffs.

Clearly, this is a result of the President's attacks on the 1st Amendment and the freedom of the press. His comments alone make him guilty of violating his oath to defend the Constitution. He's shitting on it himself.
Well, those numbers are indeed terrifying, and I am not easily terrified or surprised in this current milieu. My only hope is that WHEN Mueller presents his evidence, these numbers will retreat to the 30% I have mentioned previously. Mueller has had to be silent, and DJT, Fox and the sycophants have been able to bombard the media with their calls of "witch hunt" etc. Maybe, just maybe, the truth will reduce the national skepticism back to the "core supporters", who again would still support him if he shot somebody.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:40 AM
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Hmmmmm

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...a-outlets.html

Freedom of speech is a value in America which we all should respect.

HOWEVER, being held accountable for the many half truths, no truths and otherwise sensational nonsense that we are forcefed needs to happen.
What ever happened to.... for instance, source verification?

You might be less inclined to publish a story that you are not sure is true if there was say, a court appearance, potential restitution including public service, fines and prison time.

Keep it simple, verify and print the truth..
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:56 AM
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The irony of that being on FoxNews, lol
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:04 AM
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Hmmmmm

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...a-outlets.html

Freedom of speech is a value in America which we all should respect.

HOWEVER, being held accountable for the many half truths, no truths and otherwise sensational nonsense that we are forcefed needs to happen.
What ever happened to.... for instance, source verification?

You might be less inclined to publish a story that you are not sure is true if there was say, a court appearance, potential restitution including public service, fines and prison time.

Keep it simple, verify and print the truth..
You can drop the mention of "free speech" entirely from this. This has nothing to do with Free Speech.

This is actually the market doing what the market does to any company that willingly poisons other humans.
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