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Old 07-03-2018, 09:59 AM
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Do something. Please stop debating how civil we should be with fascists and nihilists who secretly laugh at your discourse while publicly expressing outrage that their opponents have gotten so aggressive and rude and violent ... and it’s only going to hurt them in elections. Do something! Anything, but what has already proven to fail against nihilists and fascists and cult zombies. How many people have to die directly from these policy changes (demonizing immigrants, stripping healthcare and all other social safety nets) before you realize you’re arguing with the wrong fucking people?! Seriously ... have you ever convinced Waiver Wire to reconsider his opinion on anything? Has anyone here EVER??
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Old 07-03-2018, 10:00 AM
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Apparently, Dinesh D'Souza is still going on and on about how the Democrats are the racists and the Party of the Klan. Here's a twitter thread from a real historian, Kevin M. Kruse, educating us all as to the 100% grift that is Dinesh D'Souza.

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/stat...34392250404865
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Old 07-03-2018, 10:03 AM
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It's getting to the point of spam now & getting on my nerves
It’s long past spam. At least Waiver expresses himself. This other creature just shitposts and when called out to discuss anything, he cries about how he shouldn’t bother because we’re all against poor little him. I have a hard time recalling a single attempt at legitimate discussion, do you?

So what’s the site policy on spamming?
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Old 07-03-2018, 11:45 AM
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http://thehill.com/latino/395326-ind...-protest-trump
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Old 07-03-2018, 11:55 AM
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I've enlisted to be a foot soldier (canvasser) with the Washoe cty (Reno) Democratic party. This is where our rubber is gonna meet their road folks. It's all about getting like-minded folks out to vote. Nevada stands a very good chance of putting Heller back on his pasture, but beating Amodei (Trump's campaign guy here in Nevada) will be more difficult. As with most things worth pursuing, it's all about putting the work in. After all, it's only the future of this fine republic that's at stake.
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:08 PM
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The Trump Administration policy is 100% new (we know, because duh, there was a fucking original EO he signed and rolled out with much flourish in speeches given by the Elfen AG, not the continuation of a standing order) and was being used to separate (kidnap) the children of asylum seekers while they await due process for their asylum claims. Furthermore, those children are being taken and thrown in facilities where the conditions constitute UN human rights abuses (mind you, the kidnapping in of itself is a UN human rights abuse): wire cages, concrete "freezer boxes," and tent cities that observers have said most clearly look like the kind of black sites that the CIA operated in Iraq and Afghanistan. None of that was SOP before Trump. None of it. You can sit there and regurgitate all the phony Stellasplace1.com articles from your alt-right nutosphere you want, but this illegitimate government was kidnapping children and throwing them in wire cages. It's not normal. It's not right. And, as I said, kudos to you for making kidnapping children and chucking them in wire cages the hill you want to die on rhetorically. Speaks volumes about your humanity, or lack thereof.

And now, on top of that cruelty, the administration has so poorly accounted for these kids that many of them may be lost forever in the system and never reunited with their parents. Awesome. You carry water for people who are simultaneously cruel, corrupt, and incompetent. Blindly. Compliantly. Happily. Emoji. Emoji. Kool Aid. Add 12% to Trump's shitty poll numbers and act arrogant about your ignorance.

If not of this was happening under Obama then why are we seeing videos from 2014?Why would Jeh Johnson say that it was?


Just when do you think these inhumane jails were built? Got news for you, they were built under Obama.


Now enough with the blame game pete and please answer the question how would you change this? What should be done? Please stop with the blame game and try to come up with a reasonable solution. You see I am a firm believer that hen someone sots down and stops blaming and starts discussion on solving a problem...…..things get done. But when everyone sits and points fingers, or says it just sucks, well it will continue to just suck.
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They should have two separate cages (one for the parents and one for the child) at a distance from each other. Truly disgusting what is happening in this country.
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:49 PM
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Waiver cries: Why won’t anyone sit down and negotiate with me??

Waiver negotiating: You have to give Republicans everything they want or else we are going to torture immigrant children.

Waiver crying again: But why won’t you stop blaming us and negotiate?
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Old 07-03-2018, 01:48 PM
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If not of this was happening under Obama then why are we seeing videos from 2014?Why would Jeh Johnson say that it was?


Just when do you think these inhumane jails were built? Got news for you, they were built under Obama.


Now enough with the blame game pete and please answer the question how would you change this? What should be done? Please stop with the blame game and try to come up with a reasonable solution. You see I am a firm believer that hen someone sots down and stops blaming and starts discussion on solving a problem...…..things get done. But when everyone sits and points fingers, or says it just sucks, well it will continue to just suck.
Not true. None of what you’re saying is true. Some of the facilities in question are retrofitted Wal-Marts run by private contractors the Trump Administration paid to open those facilities. The so-called black sites were literally just built and are slated to be broken down in 6-8 months. Everything you’re saying is a thoroughly debunked lie. And the simplest litmus test for whether it’s a lie or not is this: why did JBSIII give a gigantic speech at a huge event touting this if it was just the continuation of an existing policy? I watched the freaking speech. I know what I saw. No sane observer of this administration call tell you with a straight face they would’ve put that much flourish into touting the continuation of an Obama-era policy. It was new, and a complete departure from what was done in the past. Period.
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:01 PM
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Waiver cries: Why won’t anyone sit down and negotiate with me??

Waiver negotiating: You have to give Republicans everything they want or else we are going to torture immigrant children.

Waiver crying again: But why won’t you stop blaming us and negotiate?
You forgot the part where he whines because you won’t accept his “alternative facts”.
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