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Old 03-13-2018, 10:08 PM
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Lightning come up snake eyes despite Miller's hat trick.

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Andrei Vasilevskiy allowed 6 goals on 29 shots for the loss before Peter Budaj came in and allowed 1 goal on 4 shots the rest of the way. Vasilevskiy was just snake bitten and Budaj looked extremely rusty in relief.

First Period
4:19 TB Miller (16), (Kucherov, Stamkos)
7:47 OTT Paajarvi (7), (Pyatt, Pageau)
10:47 OTT Dzingel (20), (Gaborik, Ceci)(PP)
11:24 OTT Pyatt (7), (Ceci, Borowiecki)

Second Period
2:03 TB Miller (17), (Kucherov, Hedman)(PP)
7:18 OTT Gaborik (9), (Dzingel, Burrows)(PP)
13:44 OTT Hoffman (20), (Burgdoerfer, Duchene)
16:26 TB Miller (18), (Stamkos, Hedman)(PP)
18:30 OTT Karlsson (8), (unassisted)

Third Period
3:46 OTT Hoffman (21), (Karlsson, Duchene)
12:44 TB McDonagh (3), (Stamkos, Kucherov)

J.T. Miller was the game's second star.

Jon Cooper was decidedly less charitable to his players after the game, citing poor defensive coverage, turnovers, etc., but I'm willing to just accept this was one of those unlucky nights where you get rolled by a string of bad bounces despite putting 46 shots on a team and scoring 4 goals. Flush it. Burn the tape. Get ready for Boston.

Anthony Cirelli was -1 with 2 penalty minutes and 1 hit in 12:43. He was also 33% on 9n draws.

Adam Erne was -1 with 5 penalty minutes, 1 shot and 1 hit in 8:11. He lost his fight pretty decisively when McCormick tied up his arm at the outset of the fight and left Erne pretty vulnerable throughout the bout.

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Old 03-14-2018, 09:32 AM
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I tend to agree with the bad bounces and unlucky part. Don't think I've seen so many just pure luck/fluke goals against in one game.

The only thing keeping me from dismissing it completely is the Penalty Kill. It's trash. That's the thing that needs to be burned and flushed and completely reworked at this point. It simply doesn't work.
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Old 03-14-2018, 09:44 AM
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Two of the biggest problems on the team right now would be Stamkos and Kucherov. Neither one will put the puck on net unless they are in their "office".

We have not seen these two shoot from anywhere on the ice for some time now. I know if I have seen this so have the other teams.

They are at their best when they are moving and putting the other team back on their heels. We have not seen that in some time now.

Vasi looks very tired. He is not moving like he was earlier in the season. Last night their was one goal scored, in the second period, that went over his right shoulder in which he had a very odd jerky motion at the very end when he tried to make the stop.

He dropped to his knees and clearly it was not in discuss. We all saw it as he was just very tired.

Going to be interesting as to which team we see on Saturday. They need these 2 points if they want to have a chance of being the top team in the NHL.
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Two of the biggest problems on the team right now would be Stamkos and Kucherov. Neither one will put the puck on net unless they are in their "office".
I mean, you think 2 of the biggest problems are the guys who are 1st and 5th in the league scoring? The guys who are 1 and 2 on the team in shot attempts? The 2 guys who in their last 5 games have put up 9 (Kuch) and 10 (Stamkos) points? I'd also ask what you mean by that. Kuch has had 5 shots each of the last 2 games. Stamkos had 7 shots like 4 games ago (not to mention he is playing much more a setup game which seems to be working just fine for that line). They have had some issues, but they are far from 2 of the biggest problems on this team.
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Old 03-14-2018, 10:17 AM
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I mean, you think 2 of the biggest problems are the guys who are 1st and 5th in the league scoring? The guys who are 1 and 2 on the team in shot attempts? The 2 guys who in their last 5 games have put up 9 (Kuch) and 10 (Stamkos) points? I'd also ask what you mean by that. Kuch has had 5 shots each of the last 2 games. Stamkos had 7 shots like 4 games ago (not to mention he is playing much more a setup game which seems to be working just fine for that line). They have had some issues, but they are far from 2 of the biggest problems on this team.
YES. If you watch their play of late they are not moving. Assists can be a dime a dozen. Kuch is a goal scorer and has done very little to adjust his game when the other teams have adjusted theirs.

As of late if Stamkos can not shoot from his "office" he doesn't shoot.

Miller scored 3 goals last night by showing a different look. A good team can adjust and change. Have you seen that here?

Our defense is a mess. We have 12 games to figure it out. They know which pairs should work so use those pairing until they don't.

But you do not stick to a plan to rotate your lower 3 in and out of the line up. You try that for a few games and stick to a plan.

And Hedman. With the ice time he is getting we are rotating every defenseman with him at some point during the game even if that pairing is not the best in the world.
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I mean, you think 2 of the biggest problems are the guys who are 1st and 5th in the league scoring? The guys who are 1 and 2 on the team in shot attempts? The 2 guys who in their last 5 games have put up 9 (Kuch) and 10 (Stamkos) points? I'd also ask what you mean by that. Kuch has had 5 shots each of the last 2 games. Stamkos had 7 shots like 4 games ago (not to mention he is playing much more a setup game which seems to be working just fine for that line). They have had some issues, but they are far from 2 of the biggest problems on this team.
You responded to a WW post with facts. Wtf are you doing?!
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So, we are scoring 4.2 goals per game over the last 10 games, and those 2 are leading in scoring. But they are one of the biggest issues because anyone can grab assists like that one to JT Miller for the hat trick, but the real skill is how he was able to seemingly hold his stick out to knock it in the net. We are also giving up 4.2 goals per game against, but those 2 getting at or nearly 2 points per game over their last 5 games are one of the bigger issues because the 5 shots Kuch has put up each of the last 2 games is not quite enough.
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So, we are scoring 4.2 goals per game over the last 10 games, and those 2 are leading in scoring. But they are one of the biggest issues because anyone can grab assists like that one to JT Miller for the hat trick, but the real skill is how he was able to seemingly hold his stick out to knock it in the net. We are also giving up 4.2 goals per game against, but those 2 getting at or nearly 2 points per game over their last 5 games are one of the bigger issues because the 5 shots Kuch has put up each of the last 2 games is not quite enough.
Life is better with WW and tdi residing in the ignore list.

Isn't it bad enough reading the "real" news without reading their drivel on a board like this?
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So, we are scoring 4.2 goals per game over the last 10 games, and those 2 are leading in scoring. But they are one of the biggest issues because anyone can grab assists like that one to JT Miller for the hat trick, but the real skill is how he was able to seemingly hold his stick out to knock it in the net. We are also giving up 4.2 goals per game against, but those 2 getting at or nearly 2 points per game over their last 5 games are one of the bigger issues because the 5 shots Kuch has put up each of the last 2 games is not quite enough.
they were on fire for the first half of the season. They are paid to score goals. They are not paid to make stupid passes through the middle that anyone could pick off. And yes, this is what they are doing again. If they are not sitting at their spot on the circle they will not shoot. These 2 are world class players who are still making stupid mistakes game after game.

Kucherov does not look the same since he returned for his injury. He is once again making lazy passes. This is my beef.

When these 2 are playing their top game so is the rest of the team. But their turn over rate at the offensive blue line is horrendous. Sure the teams put their top lines against them, but they should counter and be able to step it up. Instead we see a lot of turn overs.
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