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Dozens of former Republican national security officials are running an anti Trump campaign and plan to vote for Biden

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They're not the same slippery slope. The Confederacy existed for five years, and it existed for the purpose of propping up a culture built on a foundation of treating human beings as property.

Christianity has existed roughly 500 year and, granted its imperfections, has taught billions to live by tenets of ethics and morality that have been foundational to Western society.

That Jesus was shown representationally as a white man wasn't borne out of white supremacy. Christianity grew through eras where the vast majority of the world was illiterate, and those representations were a way of teaching the Bible to people who had no ability to read it. That the artisans of those eras, who probably had never even seen a dark-skinned man, chose a Caucasian representation to teach the Bible to Caucasian parishioners wasn't inherently malicious.

We have the ability in the present time thanks to the proliferation of literacy and knowledge to educate people about Jesus' true identity, and we should do that. But it in no way means destroying representations of Jesus that may not be 100% historically accurate. Those representations were almost always created by the hands of people who still had deep love for Jesus and Christianity's teachings and the real sin would be to flush those expressions of faith just because we have a fuller knowledge of the historical reality than they did.
Do you believe "white Jesus" makes it into the 22nd century? Your answer says a lot about how far nuance will get you.
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Do you believe "white Jesus" makes it into the 22nd century? Your answer says a lot about how far nuance will get you.
Are you asking me if some Western churches will continue to make representations of Jesus as a white man and argue that Jesus actually was a white man in the 2100's? Probably. There are people in 2020 who still believe the world is flat. I'd like to believe that by the 2100's, though, it'd be the minority and not the majority.

Of course, by the 2100's, whites will no longer be the majority in the United States. The last census projected whites would be a plurality and not a majority by around 2045.
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Watching Kentucky tonight to see if the democrats are going to even try and compete against Moscow Mitch. .
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Are you asking me if some Western churches will continue to make representations of Jesus as a white man and argue that Jesus actually was a white man in the 2100's? Probably. There are people in 2020 who still believe the world is flat. I'd like to believe that by the 2100's, though, it'd be the minority and not the majority.

Of course, by the 2100's, whites will no longer be the majority in the United States. The last census projected whites would be a plurality and not a majority by around 2045.
Is that what you are saying, that by the 2100's "white Jesus" becomes as prevalent and ostracized as flat earthers? If so, than I agree with you.
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Do you believe "white Jesus" makes it into the 22nd century? Your answer says a lot about how far nuance will get you.
Hopefully, Jesus and all of the other superstition based messiahs are gone by then.
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Are you asking me if some Western churches will continue to make representations of Jesus as a white man and argue that Jesus actually was a white man in the 2100's? Probably. There are people in 2020 who still believe the world is flat. I'd like to believe that by the 2100's, though, it'd be the minority and not the majority.

Of course, by the 2100's, whites will no longer be the majority in the United States. The last census projected whites would be a plurality and not a majority by around 2045.
Kyrie Irving, one year at Duke, is a flat earther. And many scientists clutch on to their religious heritage.
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Hopefully, Jesus and all of the other superstition based messiahs are gone by then.
As a Christian, I don’t think that will occur.
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Kyrie Irving, one year at Duke, is a flat earther. And many scientists clutch on to their religious heritage.
Stephen Miller went to Duke.

Infer my opinion of Duke from that fact.
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Hopefully, Jesus and all of the other superstition based messiahs are gone by then.
Separation of church and state and secularism have done their job. We'll probably still see religion into the next century, but used more as a teaching tool like Buddhism or Confucianism, and not something to be revered like it is today.
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