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Old 05-24-2018, 12:17 PM
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Kap and Reid canít get signed but Incognito and Reuben Foster are still welcome in the league.

Fuck you, NFL.
That happens when you sue the owners... Reid especially is an idiot. He decided to sue when there was/still is several top safeties still free agents with him.
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:24 PM
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That happens when you sue the owners... Reid especially is an idiot. He decided to sue when there was/still is several top safeties still free agents with him.
Internal reports from the teams indicate that quite a few teams believe that Kaepernick would be a starting QB, not just a backup, for them.

I got no problem with a private business having an issue with their political protests. I do have a problem with that same private business not paying taxes while colluding to blackball two legitimately good players for their political views.

S'ok, I don't watch the NFL anymore anyway.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:52 AM
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... S'ok, I don't watch the NFL anymore anyway.
I watch a hell of a lot less than I did which has nothing to do with this issue... If it is really effecting NFL's bottom line, I would suggest they use a little psychology, let the players do whatever they want, tell the networks not to show it, not to talk about it. With the general public, out of site is out of mind... win/win

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Old 05-25-2018, 08:42 AM
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I watch a hell of a lot less than I did which has nothing to do with this issue... If it is really effecting NFL's bottom line, I would suggest they use a little psychology, let the players do whatever they want, tell the networks not to show it, not to talk about it. With the general public, out of site is out of mind... win/win
It's just bullshit. Seems they just signed a streaming deal with Verizon for $2B; bottom line has nothing to do with it.

It is the character of the owners. Players in the NFL are a commodity. I have no interest in or love for the NBA game but their players are de facto partners.

Easiest solution would have been for the teams to stay in the locker rooms until AFTER the anthem as they did prior to 2010. Seems that was the year the NFL started getting $$$ from DoD for their displays/advertisements of patriotism before each game.

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Old 05-25-2018, 08:48 AM
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Easiest solution would have been for the teams to stay in the locker rooms until AFTER the anthem as they did prior to 2010. Seems that was the year the NFL started getting $$$ from DoD for their displays/advertisements of patriotism before each game.
Or just don't plat the anthem before the game in the first place, but then they couldn't have all of us pay them for that.
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Or just don't plat the anthem before the game in the first place, but then they couldn't have all of us pay them for that.
Shaun King spoke to more players about this and they all basically confirmed that almost no player is going to protest next season because they've been sufficiently spooked by the price that Kaepernick and Reid have been made to pay.

Lola Adesioye then perfectly summed up how this is completely similar to how slaves were controlled on plantations:

"This is an age-old Pavlovian reward-punishment system of policing black ppl's behaviour: make sure that positive behaviours disliked by racist white ppl has negative consequences. In slavery days, this was things like black ppl reading + defending themselves. Today, this..." --@lolaadesioye
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Or just don't plat the anthem before the game in the first place, but then they couldn't have all of us pay them for that.
Exactly. SF is the only venue that closes their concessions and other merchandise sales during the anthem. Makes sense. Do this across the league and lock up the restrooms as well.

But that wouldn't play well with the base......
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Keeping the players in the locker room makes too much sense, it's a real solution that doesn't alienate players. I'm curious how you all feel about indoctrinating young folk into being patriotic though with methods like the anthem at sporting events. Is it being dishonest? The country has a checkered history, and it's a good thing that we are progressively teaching that in school. I think as we do this more and more though there is a cost to be paid. If you don't combat those general thoughts of apathy with some good ole' Uncle Sam propaganda, I think we get a lot fewer kids willing to go into civil service which right now is already a deeply under appreciated and undermanned field.

It's total shit that they have to resort to that in order to get buy in, but lord knows they'll never prop up these vocations with things like actual pay. You all know what I'd rather see.
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Keeping the players in the locker room makes too much sense, it's a real solution that doesn't alienate players. I'm curious how you all feel about indoctrinating young folk into being patriotic though with methods like the anthem at sporting events. Is it being dishonest? The country has a checkered history, and it's a good thing that we are progressively teaching that in school. I think as we do this more and more though there is a cost to be paid. If you don't combat those general thoughts of apathy with some good ole' Uncle Sam propaganda, I think we get a lot fewer kids willing to go into civil service which right now is already a deeply under appreciated and undermanned field.

It's total shit that they have to resort to that in order to get buy in, but lord knows they'll never prop up these vocations with things like actual pay. You all know what I'd rather see.
Pay is the bottom line. I'd love to work for the EPA and feel like I'm going good. To do so, at my experience level, taking a lateral position, I would need to take a 1/2 to almost 2/3 paycut. You can indoctrinate patriotism all you want into me, if you aren't going to pay me, it doesn't matter.
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No thoughts on Jameis' latest? Is he, as suggested by one of our local scribes, destined to join Josh Freeman on the reject pile? Or will he be our very own Ben Roethlisberger? I see the latter; so long as he can play and doesn't murder anyone football fans accept this sort of behavior.
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