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Old 10-13-2013, 10:06 PM
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Don't you have an insurance plan made available to you from your law enforcement career? Those plans are generally much better than the crap you can get as an hourly retail or grocery worker.
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I found that my county plan, which I pay 100% of the cost minus $250 in stipends from the county and the state, is still cheaper by just under $300 a month with lower prices for doctor visits and all the other common care stuff
My point is that the county plan also takes into consideration that not all of the members are in perfect health. If this is so, then why are these plans coming in much higher? I do not think that is right. These plans have a larger base to draw on and should be lower. I think the only difference is that county employees can not smoke. To be hired you have to be smoke free for 6 months. I know applicants that have been passed over for admitting to having a celebratory cigar for a birth of a child.

As a retiree I can lose my healthcare at anytime. All the Sheriff has to do is tell us he will no longer allow us to piggyback off the employee plan. And as a retiree I looked to see if I could save some money. I could not.

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Old 10-13-2013, 10:56 PM
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Then they both should be removed.
All most all of your state legislative bodies work this same way. If you ever had a bill filed all you have to do to see if those in charge of each respected chamber likes the legislator or the content of the bill is to wait and see how many committees it is assigned. In Florida more than 3 say your prayers. 2 or 3 you are sitting good.

But even then if you, or the legislator sponsoring the bill, pisses off one of the leaders the leader will order the bill stopped in committee. Committee chairs will always do what they are told in order to keep their chair or in hopes of getting a better chair the next session.

In reality most of the time the government is controlled by just 3 people, the President, the House majority leader and the majority leader of the Senate.

In Florida it is the governor, the House Speaker and the Senate President.
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Old 10-13-2013, 11:22 PM
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As a retiree I can lose my healthcare at anytime. All the Sheriff has to do is tell us he will no longer allow us to piggyback off the employee plan. And as a retiree I looked to see if I could save some money. I could not.
I wasn't trying to incite anything, I was just confirming.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:33 AM
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Then they both should be removed.
No.

The rules that allow the leaders to refuse votes on the floor need to change. This is all about power. It would be no different if both were replaced today.

Just imagine Louis Gomert or Alan Grayson as speaker of the House or Ted Cruz in Harry Reid's spot with the current rules.

Hmmm....how do I emigrate to Australia?
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:54 AM
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All most all of your state legislative bodies work this same way. If you ever had a bill filed all you have to do to see if those in charge of each respected chamber likes the legislator or the content of the bill is to wait and see how many committees it is assigned. In Florida more than 3 say your prayers. 2 or 3 you are sitting good.

But even then if you, or the legislator sponsoring the bill, pisses off one of the leaders the leader will order the bill stopped in committee. Committee chairs will always do what they are told in order to keep their chair or in hopes of getting a better chair the next session.
Florida residents will get a healthy dose of "how it works" this upcoming session when Destination Casino/Racino's hits the agenda's. It probably won't come to fruition this session (passing) but the full court press will be highly visable with "eager" anticipation in 2015 of the Seminole's compact expiration on bank games. Of course, it can be extended but has to be done via legislation.

Seems the "Gambling Study" done this year appears favorable and so does the atmosphere at 300 S. Monroe.

Why the hell you think the Panthers were sold for $250 million?
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:20 PM
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Republicans taste defeat again:

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House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, acknowledged Wednesday that he would allow a vote in the House on a newly-minted Senate deal on debt and spending.

"We fought the good fight. We just didn't win," he said on WLW radio in Ohio.

Boehner additionally confirmed that he would "absolutely" allow the whole House to vote on a plan introduced on Wednesday in the Senate. That bipartisan plan, unveiled by Senate leaders, would fund the government through mid-January and raise the debt ceiling until early February.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...ood-fight?lite

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1. It wasn't a good fight. It was a dumb fight that tried to circumvent the democratic process.
2. The GOP didn't just lose, they absolutely tarnished their brand in the process.
3. Democrats have the leverage in the next round of budget negotiations to break the sequester. If the GOP fights it, they'll re-open the political wounds and wreck their brand again just in time for 2014 campaign season.
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http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...ood-fight?lite

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1. It wasn't a good fight. It was a dumb fight that tried to circumvent the democratic process.
2. The GOP didn't just lose, they absolutely tarnished their brand in the process.
3. Democrats have the leverage in the next round of budget negotiations to break the sequester. If the GOP fights it, they'll re-open the political wounds and wreck their brand again just in time for 2014 campaign season.
Don't worry pete as I am sure we will be at the cliff with this dumb agreement. All they did was kick the can down the road. I can see another shut down in December and the threat of another debt ceiling meltdown.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:00 PM
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There's a lesson in not crying wolf to be learned here. When will they learn is the question.
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Don't worry pete as I am sure we will be at the cliff with this dumb agreement. All they did was kick the can down the road. I can see another shut down in December and the threat of another debt ceiling meltdown.
that's my disappoint. All this can happen again soon. I'm glad that I and all my fellow federal employees are pawns in their political games.
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that's my disappoint. All this can happen again soon. I'm glad that I and all my fellow federal employees are pawns in their political games.
You and your brethren are just suckling on the government teat. Who needs freaking air traffic controllers anyway? Any dude working at 7 11 could what you do.......
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