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Sotnos 05-02-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeykShade (Post 168009)
Because Obama equates saying the right thing with actually doing the right thing. He's a shit President. Better than the one before him, but that's a low bar.

Obama campaigned in the primary from the left of Clinton, because that is what the people actually want. He fooled everyone, including me(but only once). He's not a progressive in the least. He's a pro-establishment, status quo center-right corporatist. He backed off the public option because he never really supported it in the first place. Taking about it/paying it lip service is enough for him.

Makes me laugh when I see people STILL calling him a socialist/communist/whatever-ist. Those folks wouldn't know a socialist if one jumped up & bit them.

ZeykShade 05-02-2014 11:13 AM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/a86f318a6...5v94o1_500.jpg

Well done FauxNews.

Flycoon 05-02-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeykShade (Post 168046)

If that was an actual "news" item, they have hit a new low.

ZeykShade 05-02-2014 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Flycoon (Post 168048)
If that was an actual "news" item, they have hit a new low.

That was broadcast to their audience. That's not the first time they've done this kind of thing with graphs. It's intentionally designed to mislead upon first glance. You can't "accidentally" create the graph this way.

WaiverWire 05-02-2014 12:40 PM

Just announced that the House is to vote on a special committee on Benghazi.

nutznboltz 05-02-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeykShade (Post 168052)
That was broadcast to their audience. That's not the first time they've done this kind of thing with graphs. It's intentionally designed to mislead upon first glance. You can't "accidentally" create the graph this way.

It misled me on first glance until I studied the X and Y graphs coordinates :coolwink: Can you imagine one of their target audience in The Villages catching it on first glance?:rolleyes:

nutznboltz 05-02-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Flycoon (Post 168023)
Good for you.

My 56 yo golf partner has coverage through his wife's employer but would not, under any circumstances, buy it for himself or his 16 yo son if he had to go on the market to get coverage. No one in his family has ever had cancer or heart disease and all lived long lives.

What could possibly go wrong?

Here is an example. 32 yo friend of my daughter, amateur boxer in excellent shape, suffered a debilitating stroke last weekend. In a coma with a piece of his skull removed to relieve pressure.

I convinced my daughter to sign up but not my 32 year old son. He's become pretty much anti-government anything, changed his voters registration from Dem to Libertarian, voted for Ron Paul in '12, listens to Alan Jones etc. This is like a 360 degree opposing view than mine.

He says he will pay the fine in 2015 after he changes jobs to one that provides coverage to their employees. He currently works for one of the biggest banks in the world, but as a contractor with no benefits, but hopes to get hired on FT after the 1st of the year. I am keeping my fingers and toes crossed that nothing happens to him, but at some point, even though I am his father, he is an adult and his own person making adult decisions, and I have to respect that, though my gut instinct is to protect him.

RSchmitz 05-02-2014 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeykShade (Post 168052)
That was broadcast to their audience. That's not the first time they've done this kind of thing with graphs. It's intentionally designed to mislead upon first glance. You can't "accidentally" create the graph this way.

Wow, Incredibly misleading.

P.S.- I didn't vote for either Romney or Obama, I figure the best way to show disdain for the status quo and the alternative is to simply vote for neither.

WaiverWire 05-02-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Flycoon (Post 168048)
If that was an actual "news" item, they have hit a new low.

100% wrong

WaiverWire 05-02-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nutznboltz (Post 168075)
I convinced my daughter to sign up but not my 32 year old son. He's become pretty much anti-government anything, changed his voters registration from Dem to Libertarian, voted for Ron Paul in '12, listens to Alan Jones etc. This is like a 360 degree opposing view than mine.

He says he will pay the fine in 2015 after he changes jobs to one that provides coverage to their employees. He currently works for one of the biggest banks in the world, but as a contractor with no benefits, but hopes to get hired on FT after the 1st of the year. I am keeping my fingers and toes crossed that nothing happens to him, but at some point, even though I am his father, he is an adult and his own person making adult decisions, and I have to respect that, though my gut instinct is to protect him.

Wow, that would be hard for almost any parent.

My son has a terrible low paying job with the county but he is very happy to have the insurance they offer him.


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