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Flycoon 05-02-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeykShade (Post 168052)
That was broadcast to their audience. That's not the first time they've done this kind of thing with graphs. It's intentionally designed to mislead upon first glance. You can't "accidentally" create the graph this way.

Looked like something that would have come from the Onion or Colbert Report.

Flycoon 05-02-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WaiverWire (Post 168079)
100% wrong

Wrong how? That it was actually broadcast or it is a new low for them?

Flycoon 05-02-2014 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nutznboltz (Post 168075)
I convinced my daughter to sign up but not my 32 year old son. He's become pretty much anti-government anything, changed his voters registration from Dem to Libertarian, voted for Ron Paul in '12, listens to Alan Jones etc. This is like a 360 degree opposing view than mine.

He says he will pay the fine in 2015 after he changes jobs to one that provides coverage to their employees. He currently works for one of the biggest banks in the world, but as a contractor with no benefits, but hopes to get hired on FT after the 1st of the year. I am keeping my fingers and toes crossed that nothing happens to him, but at some point, even though I am his father, he is an adult and his own person making adult decisions, and I have to respect that, though my gut instinct is to protect him.

Big banking and libertarianism seems an odd combination.

nutznboltz 05-02-2014 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Flycoon (Post 168087)
Big banking and libertarianism seems an odd combination.

LOL that's what I thought too, but he's very capitalistic as well, always looking for new ways to get rich quick so he can retire at 35. I hope he does, but I tell him not to count on it and start saving for retirement instead...

WaiverWire 05-02-2014 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnie D (Post 168090)
When are those morons going to stop wasting the taxpayer's money on right wing nonsense and actually try to govern? That's right, they won't. As long as their base keeps blathering about there made up conspiracies, this craziness won't ever end.

I really think that we now have to let this play out.

Sotnos 05-02-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnie D (Post 168090)
When are those morons going to stop wasting the taxpayer's money on right wing nonsense and actually try to govern? That's right, they won't. As long as their base keeps blathering about there made up conspiracies, this craziness won't ever end.

Echoing my thoughts on this. Waste of taxpayers' money.

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pete 05-03-2014 12:27 PM

It's actually smart political calculus for the Republicans in non-Presidential year elections. Because midterms and other such elections are low turnout, base elections, refusing to govern and making government impotent depresses the excitement of Democratic base voters (who, you know, actually believe in having government), and gets the dander up of Republican base voters (who see that the government isn't doing anything, which reinforces their core beliefs, even though the Republicans are the reason the government isn't doing anything).

The problem Republicans have is that strategy is so built on political extremism they have no prayer anymore in Presidential year elections when people are more motivated to vote regardless. Over time, Democrats will erode Republican legislative advantages in Presidential year elections and peel back enough House and Senate seats to break this deadlock and actually get government back to doing business, at which point Republicans will have to find a new strategy (and they'll likely spend decades cleaning up the mess such a scorched earth political strategy has already done and continues to do, especially with women and Hispanic voters).

But, that peeling back could take 10 years (because it also depends on the eroding strength of gerrymanders as district demographics change over time), at which point many of the ones obstructing at all costs will be retired and moved into new, cushy lobbying jobs on K Street, so they ultimately don't care. If the Republican brand is tarnished for a generation, it won't matter because they'll have theirs.

WaiverWire 05-03-2014 08:11 PM

Accidental history: How Michigan may have triggered convention to amend U.S. Constitution???

http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/in...w_michiga.html

ChaseSpace 05-03-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WaiverWire (Post 168131)
Accidental history: How Michigan may have triggered convention to amend U.S. Constitution???

http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/in...w_michiga.html

If a balanced budget amendment was passed the defense budget would be obliterated before any other programs were touched. There's nothing else to cut from them.

WaiverWire 05-04-2014 06:32 PM

This is cool. Chrysler is a green energy leader in the work place.

http://www.freep.com/article/2014050...-Green-Leaders


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