NCAA Week Six

[Maverick9911]

Looks like TCU might be snatched from the Big East in 2012 in order to join the Big 12.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7066994/report-big-12-agrees-invite-tcu-horned-frogs

Almost time to pull the plug on the Big East.

[ChaseSpace]

I think the Big 12's plan is to poach every Texas school they can(Houson, UTEP, TCU, SMU).

[NoSpin]

Looks like TCU might be snatched from the Big East in 2012 in order to join the Big 12.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7066994/report-big-12-agrees-invite-tcu-horned-frogs

Almost time to pull the plug on the Big East.

It's just crazy what College Football has become. Not to mention how crappy the Big East commish is.

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[pete]

I think the Big 12's plan is to poach every Texas school they can(Houson, UTEP, TCU, SMU).

I lot of people pine for the days of the SWC. Watch the ESPN documentary on SMU.

[pete]

Boise State's not going to lose a game the rest of the year. TCU's not going to beat them. It's fairly ridiculous how light their schedule is.

[NoSpin]

Wake Forest just punching FSU in the face right now.

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[pete]

Georgia Tech escapes Maryland 21-16. Tech's offense just stopped playing once they got it to 21-3. Pathetic. Tech should've blown this team out by 40. Maryland is BAD. I have no idea how they beat Miami.

[Sotnos]

LSU gets a touchdown called back due to taunting, interesting. Not that it'll matter to the outcome, I don't think. :)

[Hoek]

Oh god.. That has to be the worst enforcement of no celebrating I've ever seen. Give me a break! Taking away LSU's touchdown for smiling and looking back? What a joke! Grow some balls, NCAA.

[NoSpin]

Absolutely crazy. I wouldn't even call that celebrating.

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[Maverick9911]

Clearly UF, FSU and UM are having a contest as to which state leader can embarrass themselves the most.

[Sotnos]

Honestly, they're over-celebrating every tackle, can't say I see the point of this rule as it won't eliminate jerk behavior. Not sure what they're trying to achieve.

[Sotnos]

Gawd it's taken an hour to play a quarter. :doh:

[Hoek]

And now you know why I'm playing WoW with the game in the background. :p

[The Great Zo]

So how would Prospal do in NCAAF?

[pete]

Did they change the rule about 6 wins needing to be against FCS schools to become bowl eligible? ESPN is listing Georgia Tech as bowl eligible already at 6-0, but Western Carolina is a FBS school.

[pete]

Va Tech chokes a big 4th quarter lead away to Miami, but comes back to take the lead with under 1 minute left.

I'm torn. Va Tech losing probably helps Georgia Tech more, but Miami looks the fool with "The U" inscribed on the backs of their helmets. Tools.

Jacory Harris just missed a wide open receiver in the soft spot in the zone that would've gotten them in FG range. Missed him by a mile. Miami looks screwed. 5 seconds left, and not enough time to get in field goal range and stop the clock on 1 play.

Miami blows it. Va Tech survives. Miami with 2 ACC losses. Title hopes nil.

[NoSpin]

Did they change the rule about 6 wins needing to be against FCS schools to become bowl eligible? ESPN is listing Georgia Tech as bowl eligible already at 6-0, but Western Carolina is a FBS school.

You are allowed to count 1 win against an FCS school towards bowl eligibility.

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[pete]

I got FBS and FCS backwards, too. I liked it better when it was Div I and Div I AA.

[NoSpin]

The State of Florida is in shock today.

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 LSU (40) 6-0 1450
2 Alabama (10) 6-0 1405
3 Oklahoma (8) 5-0 1382
4 Wisconsin 5-0 1243
5 Boise State (1) 5-0 1222
6 Oklahoma State 5-0 1176
7 Stanford 5-0 1164
8 Clemson 6-0 1080
9 Oregon 4-1 1000
10 Arkansas 5-1 921
11 Michigan 6-0 868
12 Georgia Tech 6-0 741
13 West Virginia 5-1 659
14 Nebraska 5-1 642
15 South Carolina 5-1 608
16 Illinois 6-0 594
17 Kansas State 5-0 580
18 Arizona State 5-1 414
19 Virginia Tech 5-1 410
20 Baylor 4-1 308
21 Texas A&M 3-2 251
22 Texas 4-1 216
23 Michigan State 4-1 181
24 Auburn 4-2 156
25 Houston 6-0 142
Dropped from rankings: Florida 17, Florida State 23

[BurnTHalO]

I can't decide if Oklahoma really is that good or if Texas is just that bad. Maybe a bit of both. I can't believe Wake didn't make it into the top 25 over MSU. But, seems like there are a clear set of teams at the top, and everyone else is pretty even after them.

[pete]

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/32656094

UCF to the Big East?

[NoSpin]

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/32656094

UCF to the Big East?

While I'm against it, right now I don't really care. CUSA is much more stable than the BE, and unless we get some major teams everyone will still be looking to jump ship. They may be better off staying put. This conference needs a Boise St, Army, Navy, coughTCUcough. Don't see why this helps the current situation.

I've been bitter on the UCF topic ever since Orlando media started attacking President Genshaft (not that she's a saint) over "blocking" UCF admission and threatening to make the Florida legislature force USF to support UCF. I don't see how they are so entitled, considering their football program had something like a 15 year head start on USF.

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[ChaseSpace]

While I'm against it, right now I don't really care. CUSA is much more stable than the BE, and unless we get some major teams everyone will still be looking to jump ship. They may be better off staying put. This conference needs a Boise St, Army, Navy, coughTCUcough. Don't see why this helps the current situation.

I've been bitter on the UCF topic ever since Orlando media started attacking President Genshaft (not that she's a saint) over "blocking" UCF admission and threatening to make the Florida legislature force USF to support UCF. I don't see how they are so entitled, considering their football program had something like a 15 year head start on USF.

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The hell? What happened?

[Avery86]

Entitled? The media doesn't speak for UCF. Also, Big East makes the most sense for UCF. Not sure what the problem is. And I wouldn't say CUSA is stable since there are rumbles over the Texas schools going to the Big 12.

[RSchmitz]

The Big East needs to recruit some schools that have ranking prowess. If they lose their automatic BCS bid then its all over. The fact that they have an automatic bid is indefensible when its basically South Florida and West Virgina as the only schools with any success outside their own conference.

[NoSpin]

The hell? What happened?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/knights/os-bianchi-ucf-usf-bigeast-0922-20110922,0,7311026.column

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-judy-genshaft-usf-ucf-open-mike-092911,0,7550598.story

There was a big spat in The Oracle about it, but basically the rhetoric was that USF is evil for supposedly blocking our "sister school" (WTF?) from entering our AQ conference, especially since it would benefit the entire state of Florida (??). Whether or not their was blocking going on at one point I don't know, but nobody blames UF/FSU/UM for not wanting anybody else from in state. It's bad for recruiting, and it is the President's job to protect THEIR school, not anyone elses. This article was the sanest though- http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/knights/os-diaz-ucf-usf-1006-20111004,0,6102797.column


If I was a UCF fan (I know plenty of you, and I love ya...kinda.) I would NOT want into the Big East though. To survive schools need to look forward to long term stability and the BE does NOT provide that. Everyone wants out (including us), hence why we have not raised the exit fee yet. If WVU goes there is an absolutely zero percent chance we keep AQ status, and thus the BE becomes the same as CUSA. If there is a deal to combine CUSA and Mountain West, that sounds tons better than the Frankenstein monster the Big East will become.

[gatsby]

I thought the USF blocking UCF thing was untrue? Not sure where I heard or read it but basically the Orlando media making crap up. There's no real reason for USF to ever support UCF joining the BE

[ChaseSpace]

I laughed when Mike Bianchi said:

It's time for our government officials to get involved and stop USF from the apparent back-room politicking in yet another petty, pathetic attempt to keep UCF from gaining access to the big money and the big exposure of the Big East.


I had no idea there was big money or exposure in the Big East. The coverage they get for football is barely above C-USA(unless they're talking about how disappointing Big East teams are) and their basketball coverage is better but falls behind the ACC, Big 10(12) and SEC in this area.

[gatsby]

Whoa now...Big East basketball is tops in college basketball. They have plenty of exposure.

[BurnTHalO]

Whoa now...Big East basketball is tops in college basketball. They have plenty of exposure.

But basketball makes very little money and most don't care about it, especially when compared to college football.

[pete]

Basketball doesn't make as much as football, but make no mistake, the big programs like Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, and UCONN make big bank for their athletic programs.

[BurnTHalO]

Basketball doesn't make as much as football, but make no mistake, the big programs like Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, and UCONN make big bank for their athletic programs.

No chance. Why is it that when all the Big 12 talk was going down, Kansas was not recruited by a major conference? Back like a year ago when this all started (when it looked like Texas was gone before they got their network), the talk was that Kansas was going to end up in the Mountain West when the Big 12 desolved. If basketball made that much, no way one of the top programs in the country would have to end up in the Mountain West. It really does all revolve around football.

[Flycoon]

Basketball doesn't make as much as football, but make no mistake, the big programs like Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, and UCONN make big bank for their athletic programs.

Kentucky football makes twice as much as their basketball program. Very surprising.

[pete]

Why is it that when all the Big 12 talk was going down, Kansas was not recruited by a major conference?

They were one of about 10-12 possibilities for the ACC and they may still be.

[BurnTHalO]

Boise to the Big East? (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7097384/report-big-east-boise-state-broncos-need-persuading)

Never knew Idaho was East. Most amazing thing to me is that Boise is 71-5 since 2006. Dear God, anyone who thinks they should not be treated like the other big time programs is an idiot. Honestly the Mountain West is significantly more powerful than the Big East right now. I say just switch the auto bid from the Big East over there.

[BurnTHalO]

They were one of about 10-12 possibilities for the ACC and they may still be.

I never heard that, I heard they were one of about three teams nobody was interested in.

[gatsby]

Holy Shit at today. Big East offers to Boise St, Army, Air Force, UCF

while CUSA and MWC merge into a 22 team behemoth conference. Loving it.

and I guess Boise St, AF, and UCF all approved of the merger but are still going to join the BE

[ChaseSpace]

Holy Shit at today. Big East offers to Boise St, Army, Air Force, UCF

while CUSA and MWC merge into a 22 team behemoth conference. Loving it.

and I guess Boise St, AF, and UCF all approved of the merger but are still going to join the BE

Will these moves take place next season? Will TCU still be joining the Big East or will they be moving to the Big 12(10)?

[gatsby]

TCU is going to the big 12 for sure. There's talk of it happening in 2013 and I'm sure we'll hear more about it soon.

[Flycoon]

TCU is going to the big 12 for sure. There's talk of it happening in 2013 and I'm sure we'll hear more about it soon.

2012. TCU will never play a game as a BE member.

[nutznboltz]

22 team conference? Good luck with that. 16 is too big IMO. These teams don't care about winning, it's all about the money.

[pete]

Give it enough time, the Big East might have 22 teams. The night started with ESPN saying they were adding Boise State, Air Force, Navy, and UCF.

Now they're saying Houston and SMU have been invited in along with the rest.

Navy may decide not to join, though, because Army pulled out of the deal earlier.

If all that happens, it makes the MW-CUSA make more sense from a number of teams standpoint.

You can smell the stench of desperation on the Big East right now, though. It's sad as hell they're banking on Boise State and Houston as their bell cows to remain an AQ conference.

[gatsby]

2012. TCU will never play a game as a BE member.

Yeah I meant the rest of these mergers happening in 2013, although all that is in the air.

Crazy how this went from 4 with Army involved to Navy involved to SMU and Houston in. Honestly, the other conferences are gonna probably pick at the Big 12 now I would think. Some teams to Pac 12 others to SEC and Big 10 maybe? Very interesting and I'm glad they're finally doing what they should have last year.

edit: I just need to stop believing anything I read until like 2 weeks later. Boise St and AF don't look like they'll join the BE, at least for now

[NoSpin]

Air Force wants the exit fee raised before they commit, which is understandable.

The bigger question has to be, why the hell haven't we fired the big east commissioner yet?

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