2010 Mock Drafts / Mock Picks

[John F]

I figure the other post is becoming a dump-all draft topic... So why not start a new thread specifically on Mock Drafts?

(Because, oh Darling John F, all you need to do is go to http://dcprosportsreport.com/NHLMocks.htm to get mock draft information.)

...well yeah, but it'd be nice to talk about them, still, without getting lost in discussion.

...

The whole reason I post this was because of Chris Botta's mock picks for 3-5 at NHL Fanhouse. He's actually got Connolly going third:

http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2010/06/16/after-taylor-hall-and-tyler-seguin-are-drafted-what-happens/

Most mocks have one of the defensemen going to Florida.

[pete]

Maybe we should do a mock draft among the BP staff to fill the 3 days between the end of the 11 for 6 series and the first day of the draft.

[chad]

Mock Draft Central (http://dcprosportsreport.com/NHLMocks.htm)

[WaiverWire]

Maybe we should do a mock draft among the BP staff to fill the 3 days between the end of the 11 for 6 series and the first day of the draft.

I like that idea pete. Would be interesting as to what you all think

[John F]

Mock Draft Central (http://dcprosportsreport.com/NHLMocks.htm) Same thing i posted, Chad, under a different name.

SB Nation's mock draft will be coming out soon.

[chad]

DOH!

So you did. I didn't recognize the link and for some reason didn't click on it. I MEANT to but thought... HEY! I know of one that has ALL the mock drafts.

I'm also an idiot.

:duh:

Nice plug there for you too on the banner.

[John F]

DOH!


Nice plug there for you too on the banner.

I hadn't even noticed that! Wow, LOL. I think I made those comments in a link dump... Just throw away words...

I used this chart last year when he was on a different site... Very cool.

[John F]

One of my colleagues at SB Nation did his own mock draft -- picking everyone in the 1st round.

http://www.jacketscannon.com/2010/6/15/1520031/mikes-2010-mock-draft

[ChaseSpace]

NHL.com has their latest mocks up.
Brad Holland has the bolts taking Alexander Burmistrov http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=62943
Adam Kimelman has the bolts taking Ryan Johansen http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=62937
Mike Morreale has the bolts taking Brett Connolly (least favorite pick out of the 3) http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=62944

[timothy]

NHL.com has their latest mocks up.
Brad Holland has the bolts taking Alexander Burmistrov

Brad Holland is a dickhead.

SKINNY: The first pick of the Yzerman Era ensures Bolts one day will possess frightening 1-2 punch at center

The Bolts already possess a frightening 1-2 punch at center. Is this cat really suggesting Burmistrov will be better than Vinnie Lecavalier??

[astro]

Has Calvin Pickard's stock fallen so much that he won't be drafted in the first round?

[pete]

Drafting a center does make some sense, though, Tim. We have little depth at the position beyond #4 and having a young center in the pipeline gives Stevie Y the flexibility to move #4 if he doesn't snap out of it this season.

[chad]

Quite possible. I think he'll sneak in at the end or go at the top of the 2nd.

[ChaseSpace]

The Bolts already possess a frightening 1-2 punch at center. Is this cat really suggesting Burmistrov will be better than Vinnie Lecavalier??

It appears that way. If he is better than Vinny it won't show for a few years. If the bolts draft for offense in the first round you'd think they would draft for immediate help seeing as how after the olympic break aside from Stamkos and Marty the team wasn't producing too many points.

[timothy]

Drafting a center does make some sense, though, Tim. We have little depth at the position beyond #4 and having a young center in the pipeline gives Stevie Y the flexibility to move #4 if he doesn't snap out of it this season.

But Burmistrov?? Johansen makes far more sense.

[SmittyFan1]

Thank you Tim,I agree. I don't want the Bolts to pick a Russian with their first round pick.

[timothy]

Thank you Tim,I agree. I don't want the Bolts to pick a Russian with their first round pick.

Hey, Smitty? Can't you see Russia from your front porch? ;)

[timothy]

Maybe we should do a mock draft among the BP staff to fill the 3 days between the end of the 11 for 6 series and the first day of the draft.

We'll... Stevie Y. tipped his hat today that he'll take the BPA with the #6, so perhaps a BoltProspect rank list is better?

[SmittyFan1]

Hey, Smitty? Can't you see Russia from your front porch? ;)

Yeah I am closer to Russia than everybody so I know the Bolts should not draft a Russian. :D I learned that from Sarah. :D

[njbolt12]

Yeah I am closer to Russia than everybody so I know the Bolts should not draft a Russian. :D I learned that from Sarah. :D

When I bought my last cell phone (Samsung ROGUE), I would tell people it had an app where you could see Russia from your backyard... I really beat that one into the ground. /thread derail. Sorry Sotnos!

I think Nino and Tarasenko could both be good picks... obviously you'd be more inclined to get the Swiss (hopefully not a) Miss.

[SmittyFan1]

Of the top picks, who was it that had hip surgery that everyone is questioning his health? I can't seem to remember who it was.

[astro]

Of the top picks, who was it that had hip surgery that everyone is questioning his health? I can't seem to remember who it was.

Connelly

[SmittyFan1]

Connelly

Thank you

[Wrong Net Paulie]

Connolly to me is terrifying. Hip injuries just... are scary.

[SmittyFan1]

OK, after looking at all of the mock drafts, gut feelings, the team's needs stand point, TSN's, and ISS rankings, I am going to pick Nino as who I would pick in the first round. Just my opinion pulling it out of my pea brain. :D What the hell, it's not like I have any pull with the team.

[ChaseSpace]

I still think Skinner would be an interesting choice, although if they plan to take him it would be wise to trade down a couple of spots.

[pete]

But Burmistrov?? Johansen makes far more sense.

Agreed.

And, as I said, if you're considering Burmistrov and willing to take a Russian, why in the blue hell wouldn't you take Tarasenko instead?

What scares me about these mock drafts is a lot of them have Pittsburgh or Detroit getting Tarasenko. That's just not fair if it happens.

[timothy]

What scares me about these mock drafts is a lot of them have Pittsburgh or Detroit getting Tarasenko. That's just not fair if it happens.

IMO that's likely bias in mock drafting.

If Yzerman really means BPA when he says BPA and Tarasenko makes it past Dudley, he's probably the the BPA at that point in the draft.

[pete]

Atlanta picks two picks behind us, and yeah, I would think he'd be all over Tarasenko.

[ChaseSpace]

This draft does seem like a crapshoot though when it comes to trying to figure out who will get picked when beyond the first 2 spots.

[Kowalski]

I'd like the Bolts to end up with Gormley or Nino. Methinks one of those two will be there. I actually think there's a chance Connolly goes before we pick. If he is really as good as the scouts say he is, I think a team will give him time to get healthy if the payoff will be serious production some day. Look at how patient Philly has been with Simon Gagne. Gagne has had injury problems his whole career and he's only played 624 games in 10 years, but has 524 points. If Connolly turns out to be a player like Gagne over the long run, I'm guessing that nearly any team in the league would take him. I don't think the Bolts will, but would you hate them 10 years from now if he had put up those kinds of numbers? I wouldn't.

[pete]

but would you hate them 10 years from now if he had put up those kinds of numbers? I wouldn't.

Yes, I would, because he'd eventually get paid based on his points per game effectiveness even though he could be out of the lineup 20-30 games a season, and so that leads to wasted cap space. Do you think Buffalo likes paying Tim Connolly $4.5M per year to play around 50 games a season?

There are several other goal scorers (if that's your bag) available that don't have bum hips at the 6 pick. Nino is one. Skinner's another. There's also some very good playmakers like Granlund and also Johansen available too, and Johansen's got big time upside. He looks goofy as hell now because he's all arms and legs, but 3-4 years down the line that guy could be an absolute stud. I look at Johansen and I see James Wright with 10 times the hockey sense and offensive ability, and plenty of time to fill out. He and Neiderreiter are the younger guys in this draft class, so you can project them out as having a half year more worth of time to grow and develop than the others.

[CTLightning26]

OK, time for the CTLightning mock, just for fun

Edmonton - Taylor Hall lw - they could use a right-hand centre, but they ultimately think he is a better player
Boston - Tyler Seguin c - wanted Hall, but settle for a centre so they go Savrd/Bergeron/Seguin up the middle and trade Krejci.
Florida - Erik Gudbranson d - could go for a forward, but this guy could replace Bouwmeister. They have Kulikov already, so you would think they'd turn down Fowler. Guess they could pick Gormley.
Columbus - Cam Fowler d - If they are happy with Stralman and Tyutin on the point or think Moore is a the real deal for the power play, maybe they drop down or pick a forward..But can't see them passing on a potential difference maker.
NY Islanders - Brandon Gormley d - Taking a good look at things, they would love to have Gudbranson. But they add another defenseman to the stable. Could take Connolly, Nino or Granlund.
Tampa Bay - Ryan Johanson c - For some reason, I think they might be liking this guy. He's got a ways to go, but may have a bigger upside and be safer.
Carolina - Nino Niedereitter F - Need some size up front. Would love it if one of the three d fall here though.
Atlanta - Jack Campbell G - This is the right pick. But this is Rick Dudley isn't it?
Minnesota - Jeff Skinner c - Could use some offense, couldn't they?
NY Rangers - Mikael Granlund w - Rags go for the Euro over the gamble..
Dallas - Derek Forbort d - think about Connolly, take a big d man.
Anaheim - Brett Connolly w - with two 1st-round picks, the Ducks take a chance.
Phoenix - Vladimir Tarasenko w - 'Yotes grab a Russkie.
St. Louis - Austin Watson rw - wanted Campbell, settle for a talented American forward.
Boston - Alex Burmistov c - another Samsonov?
Ottawa - John McFarland c - Sens need more offense up front.
Colorado - Emerson Etem c - speed to burn.
Nashville - Quinton Howden lw - Preds need another forward on the farm.
L.A. Kings - Riley Sheahan f - bad numbers this year, but may end up being a steal here.
Pittsburgh - Dylan McIlrath d -physical force, replaces Gill and fights.
Detroit - Mark Psysyk d - best skating d man.
Phoenix - Alex Petrovic d - had guts to fight McIlrath.
Buffalo - Jon Merrill d - Sabres could take anything here...might get offensive d man in trade or free agency.
Atlanta - E. Kutznetsov c - Duds has got to get a Russian.
Vancouver - Ludvig Rensfeldt c - could wait for Pickard here if they trade Schneider for forward help, but make the Sedins happy instead.
Washington - Tyler Pitlick c - need another centre.
Montreal - Nick Bjugstad c - High schooler drops to Habs
San Jose - Calvin Pickard g - could be ready in a few years when the Sharks need him.
Anaheim - Jarred Tinordi d - big d man could fit in future.
Chicago - Joey Hishon c - fits for the future.
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Second round

Edmonton - Justin Faulk d
Boston - Tyler Toffoli f
Florida - Jaden Scwartz f
Columbus - Brad Ross f
NY Islanders - Stanislav Galiev c
Florida - Ryan Spooner f
Carolina - Jason Zucker f
New Jersey - Brook Beukeboom d
Minnesota - Calle Jamkrok f
NY Rangers - Brock Nelson f
Dallas - Jordan Wael f
Anaheim - Beau Bennett f
Chicago - Ryan Martindale f
St. Louis - Kevin Hayes f
Boston - Patrick Cehlin f
Carolina - Charlie Coyle f
Colorado - Phillip Grubauer f
Edmonton - Jakub Culek f
L.A Kings - Peter Straka f
Florida - Teemu Pulkkinen f
Detroit - Michael Bournival f
Phoenix - Stephen Johns d
Carolina - Matt McKenzie d
Atlanta - Kirill Kabanov f
Columbus -Justin Shugg rw
Minnesota - John Ramage d
Montreal - Adam Petterson c
Isles - Martin Maricincin d
LA Kings -Toim Kuehnhakel rw
Chicago - Maxim Kitsyn lw

[CTLightning26]

from what I've read, hope to see the following guys slip the third

Weal
Culek
Galiev
Ross
Faulk
Beukeboom
Pulkkinen
Shugg
Bournival
Kuehnhackel

[chad]

Shugg would be an interesting gamble. His true worth will come out next year when a lot of the biggin's in Windsor are gone.

[ChaseSpace]

If Kabanov is there in the 3rd round I say take him. With his off the ice decisions some teams might look at him as radioactive but he has said that he will not go back to Russia which is good in my eyes.
23 points in 22 games with Moncton is nothing to scoff at. If he falls to the 3rd to me he will be the steal of the draft(unless Hall or Seguin fall to 3rd overall)

[CTLightning26]

If Kabanov is there in the 3rd round I say take him. With his off the ice decisions some teams might look at him as radioactive but he has said that he will not go back to Russia which is good in my eyes.
23 points in 22 games with Moncton is nothing to scoff at. If he falls to the 3rd to me he will be the steal of the draft(unless Hall or Seguin fall to 3rd overall)

Yep, with three 3s, i'd take him....

I have a feeling one of those teams with multiple picks in the second will grab him or Atlanta at 24

[ChaseSpace]

Yep, with three 3s, i'd take him....

I have a feeling one of those teams with multiple picks in the second will grab him or Atlanta at 24

Yeah I noticed that in your mock but you'd think(pray) that after Kovy ditched the team they would shy away from the Russians.

[bassassin]

I like Ross slipping to the 3rd. In your mock CT. Third line production/agitator would be nice.

[Goboltz56]

from what I've read, hope to see the following guys slip the third

Weal
Culek
Galiev
Ross
Faulk
Beukeboom
Pulkkinen
Shugg
Bournival
Kuehnhackel

I doubt Weal or Galiev fall to the 3rd. But from that list, if we got Pulkkinen, Ross and one of Shugg/Faulk/Kuehnhackel..that'd be a great 3rd round.

[cromag]

Pretty sure Brock Nelson doesn't fall to the second. If he does start falling, hopefully we can pull another move up out of our Carter Ashton hat and pick him up.

[CTLightning26]

googled mock NHL drafts yesterday and there is a site that lists all mock drafts out there..

Between them, they have the Lightning taking 14 different players...

[SmittyFan1]

googled mock NHL drafts yesterday and there is a site that lists all mock drafts out there..

Between them, they have the Lightning taking 14 different players...

Thanks for the idea. That was some interesting reading. I noticed 1 had the Bolts picking in the 4th when their mock draft was taken in April. IMO Gormley or Nino (barring any off the wall, reach pick by teams in from of the Bolts) would be nice.

[John F]

For what it's worth, SB Nation's Mock draft is ongoing here:

http://www.sbnation.com/2010/6/16/1521046/nhl-mock-draft-2010-sb-nation

I took Tarasenko 6th...

[alexander]

Bob McKenzie has posted his annual draft rankings over at TSN: http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=24944

Since he actually compiles his list by polling NHL-scouts , they usually give some indication of the consensus regarding draft positions.

[pete]

I'm telling you, nobody's talking about Johansen and he seems like a fit here. Yzerman keeps talking about taking a guy who won't make an impact for 2-3 years. That could be Campbell, but that also could be Johansen. Red Line compares Johansen to Getzlaf. That'd be a nice complement (thunder) to Stamkos (lightning).

I like Justin Faulk, Justin Holl, and Mark Alt as righty shot d-men possibilities in this draft.

[RSchmitz]

He has Tarasenko down at #16 because of the Russian factor

[cromag]

Yzerman keeps talking about taking a guy who won't make an impact for 2-3 years.

I don't think he's saying that because the guy he's looking at fits that, but he's just saying that guys you usually take at 6 will normally take that long to make it. Hopefully, he isn't handcuffing a guy from making the team just because he's taken 6th overall.

[CTLightning26]

Was watching the replay of the 2006 NHL Draft on the NHL network this morning and it was kinda interesting to see Jim Hammett walk up on stage to make the pick for Colorado (Chris Stewart) we should have made just a few picks after we blew it by picking Riku Helenius...

[pete]

I probably would've taken Sanguinetti, if someone held a gun to my head that night.

[Alex]

I probably would've taken Sanguinetti, if someone held a gun to my head that night.

Considering the Rangers' blueline, I wonder if he's obtainable... Probably not, but good for gee whiz. Love to see him in a Bolt sweater though.

[CTLightning26]

I probably would've taken Sanguinetti, if someone held a gun to my head that night.

either or, but thought we needed a forward then..

[pete]

We did, but righty point man was the secondary priority, and is still a priority 4 drafts later.

[chad]

Puck Daddy... (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Daddy-presents-the-2010-NHL-Mocked-Draft?urn=nhl,250878)

Kind of funny as they make fun of some of the picks, such as Boston being mad at Edmonton for taking Hall.

They have the 3 dmen going before 6, leaving Connolly for Tampa Bay.

[alexander]

They are also calling Burmistrov big...

[ChaseSpace]

Here's a fun thought.
With Niedermayer's retirement if there one of the big 3 d-men are still on the board should Tampa grab one of them or bait Anaheim into trading their 2 firsts for the 6th?

[Alex]

Puck Daddy... (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Daddy-presents-the-2010-NHL-Mocked-Draft?urn=nhl,250878)

This was pretty funny. Carolina's made laugh pretty hard

[bc_bolts]

Not sure if anyone has posted this... But what about Trading the 6th pick and maybe a later one to Minnesota for the 9th pick and Josh Harding?

[chad]

Pipeline Show's Mock (http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/06/2010-tps-mock-draft.html)

Another one for Connolly.

However, what is interesting is they say a FWD prospect told them FLA told him they were taking a dman.

That was likely before the Horton trade.