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PEIBolt
04-17-2009, 11:27 AM
DAVID EBNER

From Friday's Globe and Mail

VANCOUVER — Len Barrie, co-owner of the Tampa Bay Lightning, wants a hands-on role next season running one of the worst teams in hockey — as soon as he can sell a major real estate development in British Columbia.

Bear Mountain, near Victoria, is a sprawling project majority-owned by Barrie, with the likes of hockey heroes Mike Vernon, Joe Nieuwendyk and Rob Niedermayer also involved. Launched in 2002, Bear Mountain was a big success through the boom and includes five completed luxury condo buildings, a Westin hotel and two Jack Nicklaus-designed golf courses, the second opening in May.

But Barrie, a one-time journeyman NHLer, has his mind on the Lightning, whose 2008-09 campaign was a disaster, ending with nine consecutive losses to ring up the second-worst record in the league. The team's 24 wins were the fewest in the NHL.

"We've had a long year, we had a lot of injuries," Barrie said in an interview yesterday. "It's been disappointing not being able to help. I have to look after the main place [Bear Mountain] first, and we'll see how it plays out.

"I'd like to have more of an involvement on the day-to-day stuff [in Tampa]. You can only do so many things."

When the economy, and real estate, crashed last fall, new developments at Bear Mountain went with it. Rumours of a possible sale began to percolate and in January, there were reports Barrie was close to selling the project for $500-million to a group from the Middle East. The chatter was dismissed, but Bear executives acknowledged inquiries were being made.

Yesterday, Barrie — bolstered by a burst of new sales after prices of condos were slashed — confirmed Middle Eastern investors are working toward a deal, though it's moving slowly and far from sealed.

"There's a group that's been doing due diligence [on Bear Mountain's finances and business] for a while," he said. "We'll see how that goes. We'll keep plugging away. Nothing concrete yet."

Barrie was almost an accidental real estate developer. In the fall of 2001, after he had retired from an NHL career in which he played 184 games with four teams, he was mountain biking through the woods on the land that became Bear Mountain, snapped his chain and was left to marvel at the view. An avid golfer, he began to imagine a course — and the dream took off from there, fuelled by the long real estate boom this decade.

But it's hockey that Barrie loves. Last year, for $200-million (U.S.), he and partner Oren Koules, the Hollywood movie producer behind the Saw series who himself was a minor-league hockey player, bought the Lightning.

The drama was just beginning. Along the way, there was a fired coach, a flurry of injuries and questions of the club's solvency as recession wracked the enterprise. All in, it sunk the team that won the Stanley Cup in 2004.

Barrie is president of the NHL team. A Tampa newspaper this month said he's mostly been invisible and hasn't been in town much, and was silent as the storm raged — but he has been known to micromanage from a distance and get closely involved when he's been in Tampa.

A key decision is whether to trade star Vincent Lecavalier, who has a no-trade clause in his $85-million (U.S.), 11-year contract that starts July 1, but he could be moved before then.

TexasBolt
04-17-2009, 11:49 AM
:faceslap:

WaiverWire
04-17-2009, 11:59 AM
He said just about the same thing a few weeks ago in a TV interview. Said he wanted to be more involved and was moving to the area.......he also said the same thing almost a year ago to those of us that were sitting in the Forum when he and OK were introduced as the owners.

CTLightning26
04-17-2009, 12:02 PM
God help us

Sotnos
04-17-2009, 12:07 PM
He said just about the same thing a few weeks ago in a TV interview.Yeah we've all been crying over this news for a while now. This is the first acknowledgement I've read about him selling Bear Mountain though.

Donnie D
04-17-2009, 12:20 PM
As I said in another post, given this economy, there is no assurance that he will be able to sell it.

But if he does take a bigger role, we will know what will be #1 on the "5 mistakes that doomed the 2010 season" list.

Sotnos
04-17-2009, 12:25 PM
As I said in another post, given this economy, there is no assurance that he will be able to sell it.
If anyone's got the cash, it'd be dudes from the Middle East I'd think.

RSchmitz
04-17-2009, 04:59 PM
Of course, if he uses that expanded role to push a deal off of Lecavalier for crap, we would hate this. If he uses that expanded role to add another 10 million to the payroll, we all would love him

Sotnos
04-17-2009, 05:00 PM
Only if he keeps his piehole shut (or at the least doesn't say anything stupid) at the same time.

Avery86
04-17-2009, 05:20 PM
Only if he keeps his piehole shut (or at the least doesn't say anything stupid) at the same time.

And I suspect that line is razor thin.

pete
04-17-2009, 05:52 PM
The problem is that the only major sports owner who is "hands on" who has won a championship is Jerry Jones, and his titles were Jimmy Johnson's. Other than a Super Bowl he won with Johnson's players, his squads have done squat after running Johnson out of Dallas. Mark Cuban? Great guy. Failed miserably to win championships. Dan Snyder? Failed miserably so far.

Owners should sign checks and pick the GM.

The GM picks the coach and the players.

The coach picks his coaching staff and the tactics his players must follow.

Period. That's what works. When these roles start getting crossed up, you will fail. Guaranteed. Every time.

aapbolt
04-17-2009, 06:16 PM
I was listening to the little dog this afternoon, and evidently there is an interview with OK where they ask him if he is going to trade Vinny and OK says, he is our captain and not much else. Bleeding idiots.

missK
04-17-2009, 09:14 PM
Only if he keeps his piehole shut (or at the least doesn't say anything stupid) at the same time.

:thankyou:

RSchmitz
04-17-2009, 10:31 PM
The problem is that the only major sports owner who is "hands on" who has won a championship is Jerry Jones

Steinbrenner has to fall into this category as well.

I agree with your point though, hands on owners probably do more harm than good for their teams. Hopefully that is not what he means

Donnie D
04-18-2009, 09:22 AM
What both of these owners have in common is their ability and willingness to outspend other teams in a financial arms race. They bought every available player that they could and, if it didn't work out, spent more money. The Yankees, especially, were able to trade for every good player that was approaching free agency and sign them to a long term deal.

I could make any baseball team a contender if I was given the ability to buy every Reggie Jackson, Catfish Hunter, C.C. Sabathia, etc. that came available and was able to retain every good player that I drafted. And if I screwed up, just buy another replacement.

I question how good the Yankees would have been under crazy George if they would have had to compete with a salary cap. Then he would have had to rely on drafting, identifying and keeping good players. It takes far more talent and smarts to win under a system like the NBA, NHL, NFL or MLB (if you are a small market team) then it does if you are able to spend everyone else into the dirt. That's why what the Rays did is both so remarkable and not sustainable over the long term.

pete
04-18-2009, 10:07 AM
Exactly. And, honestly, it seems that the amount that the Yankees were successful was inversely proportional to the amount of influence Steinbrenner was exerting on baseball decisions at the time, at least after their championships in the 70's.