interesting (day old) article in NY Times

[mustang]

kind of an interesting sum-up of the progression of the Lightning from Espo in 1991 to the possible sell-off of VL today.

http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/the-morning-skate-will-the-lightning-trade-vincent-lecavalier/

[Netminder]

It seems to be and accurate summation. if old #99 can be traded ,I got to think that #4 can be also.NOT for what has been listed

Got to be a better deal than that:doh::doh: or Barries statement that they aren't "Dumb Guys",is WRONG.

[CupChamps2004]

It seems to be and accurate summation. if old #99 can be traded

Was Gretzky in his prime when traded?

[Netminder]

Was Gretzky in his prime when traded?


Was he ever, not a really good player? Gretzky's Prime was longer than most career's of others.
Based on this season I hope Vinny is not in his "Prime"

There is a reason 99 is retired in NHL.

As for the "Trade" I think it is a matter of When?,not if. But it must be for more than has been said. to get less,is just being Stuck on Stupid.

[WaiverWire]

I think that the trade of Gretzky's was also a little different then most trades. He asked to be traded and I believe had only one team on his list. This was because of his wife's ties to LA. I think if the team had been in any other location he would not had been traded.

[Sotnos]

kind of an interesting sum-up of the progression of the Lightning from Espo in 1991 to the possible sell-off of VL today.

http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/the-morning-skate-will-the-lightning-trade-vincent-lecavalier/
Interesting, and kinda snarky. Sounds like he'd already covered the Coyotes' problems...don't these northern writers have anything better to do than to pick on non-traditional markets?

[gwf82]

Was Gretzky in his prime when traded?

27...younger than Vinny now...

I think that the trade of Gretzky's was also a little different then most trades. He asked to be traded and I believe had only one team on his list. This was because of his wife's ties to LA. I think if the team had been in any other location he would not had been traded.

He was traded because Edmonton's owner Pocklington had lost a ton of money in business ventures and had to move him because he couldnt afford him.

[CupChamps2004]

27...younger than Vinny now...

Thank you. Was honest question, appreciate the non-smartass answer.

[mustang]

Interesting, and kinda snarky. Sounds like he'd already covered the Coyotes' problems...don't these northern writers have anything better to do than to pick on non-traditional markets?

I felt the same way as you do for a long time, and I still think 7-8 times out of 10 there is a bias in the reporting from that region. Comes with the territory, I guess.

But this guy's article kind of put our team's ownership history in an interesting perspective. Maybe you just get that when you import a sport somewhere new; very little chance that local money's behind it, so the commitment is less.

I mean, we did kind of go from the Yakuza to a cornpone insurance cheeseball motivational speaker (imagine the kind of guy who walks into a roomful of canadian jocks to give a down-home motivational lecture, god i wish i'd been there to see that) to Davidson & Co (best of the bunch, in my opinion, though slow-moving and more into the Pistons) to a cowboy horror movie producer. That's a pretty colorful past, to say the least.

I don't know, when a writer tees off on ownership groups that are made up of a bunch of people from all over the place, I just don't take it that personally.

[gwf82]

Thank you. Was honest question, appreciate the non-smartass answer.

Had planned to be funny but thought it would come off wrong

The second time 99 was traded he was past his prime as it was in '96 :)

[jaydeedub]

Had planned to be funny but thought it would come off wrong

The second time 99 was traded he was past his prime as it was in '96 :)

Yeah, and the old man still managed to put up over 100 points that season! :coolwink:

[PEIBolt]

Gretzky didn't get the ball rolling on the trade to L.A. himself. As eery as it mirrors what is going on with Lecavalier, Pocklington initiated the move, Gretzky heard that Peter Puck was talking to other teams and stepped in to essentially control his fate. Messier stepped in and tried to stop the trade, pleading with Gretzky not to go and the decision. No. 99 made the call to go to the Kings just before the press conference was held.